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By the time the election comes around, I think the migration issue will have run its course. It is hard for the politicians and client media to keep everyone furious for that long and the continuous cynical conflation of the 30,000 brown boys in boats with the 800,000 net legitimate migrants is unravelling in the minds of most people. The impact of the £££s of foreign students, (education is an industry) and Hong Kongers in our city centres is positive and continues to drive regeneration and urban renewal contrary to the flat-footed efforts of the central govt. Think HS2 cancellation.

The election will be won or lost on the reality of the day-to-day life experiences for the greater majority of people. This is not the chaps in the channel, but the fall in the standard of living and the failure of the govt to deal with it or even address it. I am no socialist but addressing the decade of rising prices, stagnant wages, the uncertainty of employment, and the shift of rights from the worker to employer, the virtual removal of a social safety net, and general extreme maladministration will have more traction with the voter than the lazy racism of which is tempting the likes of Reform and friends. Voters are intelligent, mostly open-minded, and will vote to better themselves. They want the country to prosper and feel fooled by the false promises given to achieve Brexit (by the same people) and as the song goes they won't get fooled again.

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“The election will be won or lost on the reality of the day-to-day life experiences for the greater majority of people.”

Yeah John. A lot of voters are so down-trodden their vote will go to the party they see as offering them a few extra quid a week should that party win the GE. But in a nation state, votes should go to the party with policies that are in the best long-term interests of the country.

However, policies in the best long-term interests of the country are not necessarily in the best long-term interests of the human race. Any party with policies in the best long-term interests of the human race would not be popular.

It would take a fascist regime to implement such policies.

If you read my post of May 14 on this thread, you’ll see that IMO we’ve had essentially fascist regimes (not the sort mentioned by OGH) by the back-door in, at least, the UK for decades. The GEs may think they are overall acting in the best interests of the human race but some of their policies range from crazy to immoral.

If my understanding is correct, the sort of fascist party mentioned by OGH would be acting in the best long-term interests of the UK as a nation state.

Hope you will forgive my using a reply to your comment as an excuse to have a rant…

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I would like to continue believing in the common man, I include myself, and women and children's, sense of fair play. I don't believe the third generation Pakistani Brit at the corner shop likes students persecuting Jews in the street. Even when I was in the Forces I thought bombing people was wrong if only because it makes the attacked angry. The Blitz hardened our resolve.

There is a concerted effort now to undermine our way of life, a drip drip process led by the Left. It is subtle and insidious and has taken over the BBC, universities, Police, the Church, local government, the Civil Service and soon, Parliament. They are clever, good at it. The white hetero indigenous is treated like an unwanted minority. The mixed race gay almost has elevated status; white hetero BBC and Guardian staff are apologetic.

Where are the tough guy Colonels, Majors and Sgt Majors? The determined Corporals and Lieutenants? There must be some. Are they so old, decrepit or indifferent? A tide always turns. The only conclusion I see is that we of the centre and right are nowhere near angry enough. Perhaps we need to be bombed; have our computers, tablets and phones turned off ,sending us outside to blink in the daylight; to do something.

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“There is a concerted effort now to undermine our way of life… The white hetero indigenous is treated like an unwanted minority. “

Yeah. Anyone for the Coudenhove-Kalergi Conspiracy of the 1920’s?

Whatever their ultimate aim was then, they have gone global. in my view it’s all part of the Globalist Elites’ (GEs’) Agenda, the essential aim being for the human race, in particular themselves and their offspring, to change the direction of the human race from following its current self-imposed (probably more accurately described as having been inadvertently engineered by the GEs) trajectory towards extinction.

How much further on will they be after another hundred years?

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I gave up mentionong Kalergi etc a while back. The blinking owl like dumb stares of the Dunning Krugers put paid to that. D-K being better represented at Westminster.

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“… if the Tory party cannot recognise the direction of travel, and steadfastly refuses to move form the centre ground, then fascists will be the electoral beneficiary - and it will reach critical mass..”

“… we are in dangerous territory. More so if the public begins to realise they can't vote their way out of national extinction. Our elites are playing with fire.”

By exerting their supremacy over individual nations it could be argued that on a global scale the Globalist Elites (GEs) via International Treaties, etc are fascist. Far from occupying “the centre ground” both Labour and Tory in recent decades have largely been representing the GEs.

That being the case, we’ve had essentially fascist regimes in, at least, the West for decades. These representative fascist regimes have probably already reached “critical mass”.

It’s time the public realised they can’t vote their way out of national extinction and that the GEs Agenda for the human race to live a much more sustainable existence is the sensible way to go.

If the public should not realise this then it is they who will eventually be “playing with fire”.

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Are you not saying that fascism is sensible and we have fascism anyway? The public has no say in the matter so what it might want is irrelevant.

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“Are you not saying that fascism is sensible and we have fascism anyway? The public has no say in the matter so what it might want is irrelevant.”

Interesting question John.

I’m saying that for the human race to change to a much more sensible direction needs directors.

If “the public” can’t see that the present course of the human race is a trajectory towards the latters’ extinction then it isn’t fit to have a “say in the matter”.

If the directors have to behave as fascists in order to achieve the desired goal then so be it.

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I'll stick to my faith rather than yours, I think. It has the possibility of redemption.

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