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mikebravo's avatar

We are not voting our way out of this.

We will end up like Germany with a coalition of left/wets making sure we can't have immigration laws or any kind of removal system.

The left are too entrenched to agree to go quietly.

Gilgamech's avatar

My local Green councillors, life long activists and thoroughly decent people, are nauseated by what the Green Party has become and are ready to go Lib Dem or just exit politics in disgust. They have more time for the local Reform candidates than the parachuted-in Tory and Labour apparatchiks. They can smell real vs fake and so can the electorate. But I think you are right that Reform is past its apogee already.

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