A gloomy post which I suspect is bang on the money.
I suspect we will face a rise in street protests which will run for many months as the country descends into chaos with the addition of a financial crash.
Our government will struggle to cope and how this ends is difficult to forecast but my stab at a guess, as an optimist, is that from the ashes something better will eventually emerge.
Hope you’re right but may also end with a giant national shrug and giving up, when there’s nothing anyone can do, and wrong opinions are pointless if they don’t land you in prison.
I think there are/will be an ever growing number of dissatisfied people in the UK, that our government and politicians will find it very hard to ignore.
The scenes in Portsmouth yesterday, were interesting. Many local people came out to protest, peacefully as far as I could see, from the videos. It was ordinary people blocking the way of the invading migrant carrying buses.
The revolt by the ordinary people, has started. As Pete wrote: "That is why it’s time to take this to the streets."
I’ve always said Farage doesn’t want to be PM. It’s all game to him. Being PM is too much like hard work and he’d hate the responsibility. A Faragist party without Farage would soon hit the buffers.Tice and Yusef are just too unlikeable to appeal to enough voters . Though the same applies to Farage. Also the left and the liberals have developed a sophisticated tactical voting operation that will severely limit the amount of seats Reform can win.We’re going to get another labour government as we have effectively 2 Tory parties.Though I suspect as the election gets closer the donors and the press barons will pressurise Farage and Badenoch to agree some sort of merger. That would suit Farage and give him an exit strategy.
From here, you’re going to see a lot more manifestations of what we saw in Dover yesterday, and if you’re a middle-of-the-road conservative, you’re not going to like the politics it represents. It’s an ugly side of politics......................
This is where Dover becomes particularly uncomfortable for the political establishment, because the people angry about immigration can make an argument which some of the more fashionable practitioners of direct action cannot: we tried voting. They voted for governments promising lower immigration. They voted for control of Britain’s borders. Many voted for Brexit partly for that reason. They have petitioned, marched, written to MPs, complained and watched governments of different colours acknowledge their concerns before pursuing policies which, from the perspective of those voters, have repeatedly failed to deliver what was promised. None of this creates an unlimited licence to break the law, but it does explain why the spectacle of the British state patiently accommodating disruptive protest by causes fashionable within progressive culture was eventually going to produce a fairly obvious question: if disrupting roads is how a political movement makes itself impossible to ignore, why are we still standing politely behind the barriers?
Dover is one answer to that question, and this is the precedent successive governments should have worried about long before Saturday morning. A state cannot indefinitely operate two conceptions of political legitimacy: one formal, in which citizens vote and Parliament governs, and another informal system in which sufficiently determined activists can acquire additional political leverage through disruption. Once the second system exists, access to it cannot sensibly depend upon ideology, nor can government expect one section of the population to remain permanently more restrained than another simply because its grievances have been classified as less respectable by the people who dominate cultural institutions.
Couldn't agree more. You've summarised it precisely. What concerns me is not only the logical outcome of ignoring us, it is the bloodshed it will take to make the 'establishment' realise it. And the Islamic lion hasn't even begun to roar. When it does, Lebanon will be twinned with the U.
It seems that the ruling class in the UK are deaf. They are pushing the people too far. By failing to hear and obey the wishes of the majority concerning immigration, they are enabling the rise of the real “far right”. The AfD in Germany has just won a big victory. Any Party that is elected democratically with an anti-immigration agenda cannot be called “far right”. It astounds me that the ruling classes are ensuring the low level civil war that they are provoking by their intransigence.
This particular photo is taken from his press conference on 7th July earlier this year, when he announced his resignation to fight the by-election over the previous set of dodgy funding allegations.
What a pointless & futile act that was, born out of anger and defiance when what was needed was a cool head. Farage in a nutshell. It works for rebels, it doesn't work for the leaders of a country.
Yes, there are no political approaches we can take, and I agree that non-political responses are all that's left. However, the state have shown time and time again that they are prepared to use the long arm of the law and the media to punish and ostracise dissent. Besides the long game (a wish and prayer), we have one option: highly visible and increasingly violent escalation. Short of a massive sustained protest (think Vietnam War or even Occupy Wall Street), which is probably impossible to organize and sustain without perversion by the press, all we have are smaller, escalating "protests". Why must they escalate? Because one of these will achieve nothing. The first that could achieve anything will be heavily punished, it's participants facing prison time. It must escalate because the people organizing the following "protest" must also be legitimately prepared to face the same legal challenges. It will need to carry on like that until meaningful (not nominal) change is effected. This is how most radical left movements operated throughout the 20th century. The were ultimately successful.
This reality is too uncomfortable for most people, so I suspect it will not happen. We are truly a defeated people, I'm sorry to say.
A gloomy post which I suspect is bang on the money.
I suspect we will face a rise in street protests which will run for many months as the country descends into chaos with the addition of a financial crash.
Our government will struggle to cope and how this ends is difficult to forecast but my stab at a guess, as an optimist, is that from the ashes something better will eventually emerge.
Hope you’re right but may also end with a giant national shrug and giving up, when there’s nothing anyone can do, and wrong opinions are pointless if they don’t land you in prison.
I think there are/will be an ever growing number of dissatisfied people in the UK, that our government and politicians will find it very hard to ignore.
The scenes in Portsmouth yesterday, were interesting. Many local people came out to protest, peacefully as far as I could see, from the videos. It was ordinary people blocking the way of the invading migrant carrying buses.
The revolt by the ordinary people, has started. As Pete wrote: "That is why it’s time to take this to the streets."
I’ve always said Farage doesn’t want to be PM. It’s all game to him. Being PM is too much like hard work and he’d hate the responsibility. A Faragist party without Farage would soon hit the buffers.Tice and Yusef are just too unlikeable to appeal to enough voters . Though the same applies to Farage. Also the left and the liberals have developed a sophisticated tactical voting operation that will severely limit the amount of seats Reform can win.We’re going to get another labour government as we have effectively 2 Tory parties.Though I suspect as the election gets closer the donors and the press barons will pressurise Farage and Badenoch to agree some sort of merger. That would suit Farage and give him an exit strategy.
From here, you’re going to see a lot more manifestations of what we saw in Dover yesterday, and if you’re a middle-of-the-road conservative, you’re not going to like the politics it represents. It’s an ugly side of politics......................
This is where Dover becomes particularly uncomfortable for the political establishment, because the people angry about immigration can make an argument which some of the more fashionable practitioners of direct action cannot: we tried voting. They voted for governments promising lower immigration. They voted for control of Britain’s borders. Many voted for Brexit partly for that reason. They have petitioned, marched, written to MPs, complained and watched governments of different colours acknowledge their concerns before pursuing policies which, from the perspective of those voters, have repeatedly failed to deliver what was promised. None of this creates an unlimited licence to break the law, but it does explain why the spectacle of the British state patiently accommodating disruptive protest by causes fashionable within progressive culture was eventually going to produce a fairly obvious question: if disrupting roads is how a political movement makes itself impossible to ignore, why are we still standing politely behind the barriers?
Dover is one answer to that question, and this is the precedent successive governments should have worried about long before Saturday morning. A state cannot indefinitely operate two conceptions of political legitimacy: one formal, in which citizens vote and Parliament governs, and another informal system in which sufficiently determined activists can acquire additional political leverage through disruption. Once the second system exists, access to it cannot sensibly depend upon ideology, nor can government expect one section of the population to remain permanently more restrained than another simply because its grievances have been classified as less respectable by the people who dominate cultural institutions.
Couldn't agree more. You've summarised it precisely. What concerns me is not only the logical outcome of ignoring us, it is the bloodshed it will take to make the 'establishment' realise it. And the Islamic lion hasn't even begun to roar. When it does, Lebanon will be twinned with the U.
Weak men make for hard times...
It seems that the ruling class in the UK are deaf. They are pushing the people too far. By failing to hear and obey the wishes of the majority concerning immigration, they are enabling the rise of the real “far right”. The AfD in Germany has just won a big victory. Any Party that is elected democratically with an anti-immigration agenda cannot be called “far right”. It astounds me that the ruling classes are ensuring the low level civil war that they are provoking by their intransigence.
They are not deaf. It is deliberate
Well then, they richly deserve the consequences of their insanity.
You can see it on his face in the photo, can't you? He knows it's all over. And he's only got himself to blame.
Not sure how you can draw that conclusion.
This particular photo is taken from his press conference on 7th July earlier this year, when he announced his resignation to fight the by-election over the previous set of dodgy funding allegations.
What a pointless & futile act that was, born out of anger and defiance when what was needed was a cool head. Farage in a nutshell. It works for rebels, it doesn't work for the leaders of a country.
He's obviously known for quite a while that it's all over.
Yes, there are no political approaches we can take, and I agree that non-political responses are all that's left. However, the state have shown time and time again that they are prepared to use the long arm of the law and the media to punish and ostracise dissent. Besides the long game (a wish and prayer), we have one option: highly visible and increasingly violent escalation. Short of a massive sustained protest (think Vietnam War or even Occupy Wall Street), which is probably impossible to organize and sustain without perversion by the press, all we have are smaller, escalating "protests". Why must they escalate? Because one of these will achieve nothing. The first that could achieve anything will be heavily punished, it's participants facing prison time. It must escalate because the people organizing the following "protest" must also be legitimately prepared to face the same legal challenges. It will need to carry on like that until meaningful (not nominal) change is effected. This is how most radical left movements operated throughout the 20th century. The were ultimately successful.
This reality is too uncomfortable for most people, so I suspect it will not happen. We are truly a defeated people, I'm sorry to say.
During the Covid tyranny I realised that we're completely fucked: the majority of my countrymen revealed themselves as bedwetting cretins.
A Muslim takeover would at least increase the indigenous birthrate.
"Downes is an intellectual thug. "
Really? To me he comes across as a cowardly and inarticulate little boy too scared to say the obvious.
' ...There’s only one real beneficiary of this, and it’s Kemi Badenoch..'
Absolutely. A lot of commentators here won't agree as it's uncomfortable reading for them. Hey, who cares.
Reform or Restore is toast - Kruger must be ruing the Day he left the Tories - he's dead meat along with the more strident and moaning Jenrick.
Politics - really is a dirty game.
I expect media and business will weigh in behind her now that Labour looks even more dangerous and inept.
Pete, you are hitting every nail on the head. Why can't otherwise intelligent people see it?
I asked why Nigel recruited Zia?
Has the establishment got info on Zia/Nigel?
Will they use it? If it kills off Reform and boosts Tory chances? (Zia ends up a Tory)?
Restore may only be around 12% but it builds confidence, which means they pick up further support from lapsed voters.
In Europe Le Pen is odds on taking over in France, that will see illegal migration to the UK collapse.
The latest from AfD in Germany, the Spanish disaster, Italy’s politics, all add up to a political reversal for the EU globalists. Labour are isolated.
The UN and WEFs dastardly act of engineering war in Ukraine will become very important.
The Unipartys ultimate aim (war) should stop them gaining power.
Lowe will be aware of the situation as he talks to Andrew Bridgen.
He will have advised him on it - see his YouTube comments earlier today.
Trump will be having his say too.
He may well make a huge issue of war in Ukraine at the next election.
That would hit the Uniparty.
He likes Nigel but will Nigel still be around)?
Or will he see Rupert as the only hope for the UK? As for Charlie, that’s a good description.
Brutal.
With MSM being so soft hearted and Islamists being so sweet, perhaps he should tone it down?