This is very interesting and well written piece, but there seems some degree of inherent contradiction to it. On one hand you seem to agree with Tice and the Official Right line of disavowing Tommy Robinson and crudely accepting mainstream attitudes to his movement, and on the other hand you also praise or respect more another movement which is more ethno-nationalist and antisemetic. Wouldn’t it be easier just to say ‘don’t give a shit anymore about what the Left/mainstream label you as’ and combine that with ‘don’t fall for stuff that is genuinely batshit crazy’? Not everything alternative is going to be accurate or worthwhile.
For me the mistake of the timid Official Right, of the Tories first of all and then Tice and Reform now, is letting the other side define what’s respectable and what isn’t. They should never, ever exclude Robinson or exclude white working class movements. They should embrace white working class movements and be fully populist about it because that’s where their vote is going to sit now. They should laugh at attempts to define things as racist or as far right that aren’t racist or far right. And they shouldn’t be afraid to talk about how racist towards whites people current progressive attitudes and policies are. Of course the mistake of some alternative media and parties is to then think that everything non mainstream must be true, including genuine retards like Darryl Cooper. But we should condemn that not because the Keft/mainstream want us to, but because she’s it’s historically ignorant bullshit.
What you’re describing with Homeland doesn’t sound cleverer to me-it sounds like shit posters and edgelords. And no way should we condemn Robinson for breaking a totally unjust injunction issued by a standard globalist progressive crook of a judge. It’s the unjust policing of our thoughts and speech we should focus on in that scenario.
I agree, a nice synopsis, with more balance, taking into account arguments Pete missed. I agree with much of what Pete mentioned although I do not agree that Homeland will fit the endurance test and that many of their number will ultimately flow outward from their position to live in hermit huts of political irrelevance in the future, and those that do not will refine their arguments more in line with cultural nationalism, my antidote to the current crises. The white working class is there for the picking, however, they come with their own particular problem, getting them to voting stations will be the biggest challenge, a good leader can make inroads here.
Thanks, and yes overcoming the disengagement and apathy will be a big task. I think Matt Goodwin the pollster is spot on regarding where any movement of the Right has to go now. They have to embrace populism. And they can't do that as scared, polite status quo fakeservatives. They have to be bold about laughing at labels given by the other side and they have to show the working class they are with them.
'It's clear from online disputes that the civic nationalist right and the new right are not natural bedfellows, and in fact have a strong dislike of each other. The latter openly discriminates on race, occasionally dabbling in race science, as opposed to discriminating on culture.'
In relation to the passage above, I assert that race and culture are not mutually exclusive, they are tied very closely together.
No but it is the cultural changes being brought about on which we should concentrate. Any race can join certain cultures. Making it a race issue is a mistake.
Yes, Matt is correct of course, I too think populism is the way forward, laughing at the pseudo-morality arguments of the liberal progressives is a good starting point and once this widens the Overton window, the momentum will coast through the glass ceiling like a hot cutter. The left is losing, it's now merely a matter of time and not in the too-distant future they will be pummelled.
Pete, I think young men are realizing that their grandfather's society has been taken right out from under them by hapless, stupid, wasteful idiots. As times get thinner, only the sharpest, realest, and toughest will survive. The right wing totally dominates most young male spheres - and for good reason. It is the only thing in many young men's lives that is telling them that they aren't worthless
First of all, do get well soon. What you've got sounds rough fella.
On the stuff you raise...the problem with this wing of politics is it's always attracted about ten times of its share of narcissists, sociopaths and other assorted weirdos who remind me of that old quote "the smaller the stakes the worse the infighting". Honestly the 'internal warfare' of these groups has always resembled two bald guys fighting over a comb and invariably leads to their destruction.
Then there's the matter of whether they genuinely care about our civilisation in other ways or actually nurse some nasty, authortitarian views on other subjects just with different sets of winners and losers. Don't Reform come across that way once you scratch the own brand primer on the surface? Well anything openly 'ethnic nationalist' is going to have some hardcore Statist booby traps you haven't been shown yet. These are not 'freedom loving' people in any meaningful sense.
Surely there aren't enough of any of these factions to support a parliamentary majority in this lifetime or the next, so they'll be needing to uncover somebody, somewhere who can unite them or at least keep a lid on the factionalism within the umbrella. I suspect that would be an autocrat predisposed towards crushing dissent and...me neither. But how else would this work?
BTW don't the BNP still technically exist? Wonder which phone box they hold their AGM in....
No worries Pete. You’re doing well even with your illness. Get well soon. I’ll certainly be waiting for your next piece whenever it drops. Cheers S
Get well soon.
Bless, Pete. Hope you recover soon. Sounds excruciatingly painful.
This is very interesting and well written piece, but there seems some degree of inherent contradiction to it. On one hand you seem to agree with Tice and the Official Right line of disavowing Tommy Robinson and crudely accepting mainstream attitudes to his movement, and on the other hand you also praise or respect more another movement which is more ethno-nationalist and antisemetic. Wouldn’t it be easier just to say ‘don’t give a shit anymore about what the Left/mainstream label you as’ and combine that with ‘don’t fall for stuff that is genuinely batshit crazy’? Not everything alternative is going to be accurate or worthwhile.
For me the mistake of the timid Official Right, of the Tories first of all and then Tice and Reform now, is letting the other side define what’s respectable and what isn’t. They should never, ever exclude Robinson or exclude white working class movements. They should embrace white working class movements and be fully populist about it because that’s where their vote is going to sit now. They should laugh at attempts to define things as racist or as far right that aren’t racist or far right. And they shouldn’t be afraid to talk about how racist towards whites people current progressive attitudes and policies are. Of course the mistake of some alternative media and parties is to then think that everything non mainstream must be true, including genuine retards like Darryl Cooper. But we should condemn that not because the Keft/mainstream want us to, but because she’s it’s historically ignorant bullshit.
What you’re describing with Homeland doesn’t sound cleverer to me-it sounds like shit posters and edgelords. And no way should we condemn Robinson for breaking a totally unjust injunction issued by a standard globalist progressive crook of a judge. It’s the unjust policing of our thoughts and speech we should focus on in that scenario.
I agree, a nice synopsis, with more balance, taking into account arguments Pete missed. I agree with much of what Pete mentioned although I do not agree that Homeland will fit the endurance test and that many of their number will ultimately flow outward from their position to live in hermit huts of political irrelevance in the future, and those that do not will refine their arguments more in line with cultural nationalism, my antidote to the current crises. The white working class is there for the picking, however, they come with their own particular problem, getting them to voting stations will be the biggest challenge, a good leader can make inroads here.
Thanks, and yes overcoming the disengagement and apathy will be a big task. I think Matt Goodwin the pollster is spot on regarding where any movement of the Right has to go now. They have to embrace populism. And they can't do that as scared, polite status quo fakeservatives. They have to be bold about laughing at labels given by the other side and they have to show the working class they are with them.
Get well soon.
This was a very good read.
'It's clear from online disputes that the civic nationalist right and the new right are not natural bedfellows, and in fact have a strong dislike of each other. The latter openly discriminates on race, occasionally dabbling in race science, as opposed to discriminating on culture.'
In relation to the passage above, I assert that race and culture are not mutually exclusive, they are tied very closely together.
No but it is the cultural changes being brought about on which we should concentrate. Any race can join certain cultures. Making it a race issue is a mistake.
So the murderer in Southport was also a terrorist (but the murders weren’t?)
With ricin in his home and downloads of terrorist propaganda that’s a slam dunk.
Was there a 2nd terrorist ready to attack the rally in Southport?
Hide the truth from the public and trust evaporates.
Peter your journalism is far too kind to the establishment.
It was only recently that you couldn’t name Tommy in an article without it being blocked.
It’s not about left and right or right and wrong it’s about good and evil.
Poor Peter Lynchs placard looks prophetic - the judiciary are bent.
Yes, Matt is correct of course, I too think populism is the way forward, laughing at the pseudo-morality arguments of the liberal progressives is a good starting point and once this widens the Overton window, the momentum will coast through the glass ceiling like a hot cutter. The left is losing, it's now merely a matter of time and not in the too-distant future they will be pummelled.
Pete, I think young men are realizing that their grandfather's society has been taken right out from under them by hapless, stupid, wasteful idiots. As times get thinner, only the sharpest, realest, and toughest will survive. The right wing totally dominates most young male spheres - and for good reason. It is the only thing in many young men's lives that is telling them that they aren't worthless
Homeland is a silly name, instantly alienating all those who don't really have any claim on one
First of all, do get well soon. What you've got sounds rough fella.
On the stuff you raise...the problem with this wing of politics is it's always attracted about ten times of its share of narcissists, sociopaths and other assorted weirdos who remind me of that old quote "the smaller the stakes the worse the infighting". Honestly the 'internal warfare' of these groups has always resembled two bald guys fighting over a comb and invariably leads to their destruction.
Then there's the matter of whether they genuinely care about our civilisation in other ways or actually nurse some nasty, authortitarian views on other subjects just with different sets of winners and losers. Don't Reform come across that way once you scratch the own brand primer on the surface? Well anything openly 'ethnic nationalist' is going to have some hardcore Statist booby traps you haven't been shown yet. These are not 'freedom loving' people in any meaningful sense.
Surely there aren't enough of any of these factions to support a parliamentary majority in this lifetime or the next, so they'll be needing to uncover somebody, somewhere who can unite them or at least keep a lid on the factionalism within the umbrella. I suspect that would be an autocrat predisposed towards crushing dissent and...me neither. But how else would this work?
BTW don't the BNP still technically exist? Wonder which phone box they hold their AGM in....