Last night I listened in on a nationalist space (Twitter radio) comprised mainly of Restore Britain supporters - and I am now more convinced than ever that Restore will implode.
Many on the left don't like each other but will vote together to claim power, seeing it better to have 4/10 preferences ticked than 0/10.
We on the right, however, seem to demand utter purity and won't support anything if it doesn't tick 10/10 preferences.
In the meantime, Joe bloggs of General street, Middle ground, will continue to not vote or at best keep with labour/Tories because there is nothing coming out of Reform/Restore that will ease the cost of living, create opportunities for his children, or create a vision of a successful future Britain.
Migration is a big problem, but it is far from the only problem, and the parties need to be adding that to their set list.
I have to agree with you about the right demanding purity and everything they want. I’ve always thought the right had higher IQs and better ideas but if we can’t understand that without power ideologies are irrelevant then we must be very stupid.
I think the right has spent a long time compromising, and has failed to get anything. The Tory big tent strategy as can be seen from their last time in power turned into what was basically a Blair tribute act. How to square the circle between compromise that leads to betrayal, and purity that leads to abject failure?
I don’t think that’s true. Historically the right has only had the Tories to vote for. Then Reform can give them most of what they want but not all so 4% which could be crucial, splinter off to Restore who cannot win outside Great Yarmouth. But people still follow them so they’ll get nothing except more socialism. Madness.
The Right has only had the Tories to vote for because the Tories were a compromise. A big tent party with multiple factions inside. Whereas the Left split into groupsicles.
What's happened is some of the component parts of the Tories have set out on their own, because there was no successful route to compromise with parts of the Tory party.
Get rid of the Tory wets and other parts who would be much more ideologically at home in Labour or the Libdems and it wouldn't take the Right long to start to get along again. The big egos only have so much weight.
I hope you’re right Dan. It’s interesting that Reform, Restore and the Tories now all have shades of benefit and government department and quango savings in their sights. Maybe there could be room for some compromises as the election gets nearer? Assuming there’s not one due soon we have time for the LibDems like Mel Stride to leave.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with this article. It's just a matter of time for Restore to implode , you can't have civic nats and cultural nats in the same party as ethno nats.
Reform need some Leader's in waiting to replace Farage, which they do have. Reform has a big problem in some constituencies with tory infiltrators who have wrecked branches but that's not insurmountable. I still think or hope Reform can turn things around because it really is the last chance to save our country without resorting to other means.
Yeah, I'll make a prediction now, the way things are going, at the next election, we'll end up with a full labour government, or greens and labour coalition.
If that happens, a repeat of Labour’s “landslide victory” where only one fifth of the electorate voted Labour, David Betz’s predictions will be realised. That’s the only result I can see in the long term.
It’s true Farage and Lowe are slowing down and need others to share their burdens.
As far as Reform is concerned the obvious replacement is Yusuf, as stated. But how will that stand with Reform supporters?
For Restore,there’s Charlie Downes. He has become noticeable with the nasties of MSM baring their teeth - so he’s making progress.
In the background Andrew Bridgen hovers, how he fits in isn’t clear, but he will become more prominent as his litigations wind down.
I do know supporters of Restore who will vote Reform in any national ballot and vice versa, so the right isn’t that split (wishful thinking). Perhaps Tory’s are looking for prominence in a future right wing coalition, but they don’t merit it, as they simply aren’t trusted.
I’m surprised no thought has been given to how the Ukraine conflict will affect future UK politics.
I think migration issues will go quiet in the near future as the Ukraine conflict takes centre stage.
Putin is angry and no doubt he will do something over the UKs activity of supplying military equipment and expertise to Ukraine. What that is is anyone’s guess, but you can be sure it will be prominent.
MSM will show outrage over the evil empires actions but what of Labour supporters with their natural affinity with Russia?
The future isn’t as binary as your article would have it.
Trump has noted his reluctance to support NATO to back the UK in any retaliation Putin might enact. That would point to something in the pipeline.
The future for the UK looks even more dangerous than previously.
Agree with a lot of this but Reform still polling at 27%, which isnt bad given the wave of anti- Farage stuff in MSM. Reform vote may harden again as a result of the pictures of the super-dinghy and the Home Office's "please do not rape our women" pamphlet. I agree Reform would be diabolical in govt, but there is a resilient core to their support.
As I've said before the 'Right' need more time to sort themselves out which they will get as a coalition of the 'Left' will keep out the 'Right' at the next election.
Yusuf represents the permanently angry and bitter section of the Reform base. The ones who use insults and abuse as a first resort. He's also been community noted on X more than any other UK politician. Basically he lies to keep his followers in a state of permanent rage. To the Yusufites there can be no accommodation with either the Conservatives or Restore, both must be destroyed. They also don't want any Conservative defectors: They think complete novices can run the ministries.
She was born to British parents because she had a genetic and cultural inheritance. I've got the brain of an Irish Solicitor and a piece of shrapnel grandpa earned from a British warship. The residents of Green Lane can go and live in Pakistan. This isn't unreasonable, they can go peacefully back to Mirpur. If anyone sees the Mayor or Birmingham please ask him to bugger off.
And when Reform and Restore implode, my guess is many of their supporters will go back to not voting. I like Kemi politically but the Tories are still rightly blamed for the wasted years and wasted Brexit. How many are going to trudge to the polling station to essentially vote against what they dislike more?
Could the English Revolution and the birth of the Commonwealth have been realised without a leader like Oliver Cromwell? The Puritans were the underlying force enabling the removal of Charles 1. So you do need a unifying ideology. I don’t see any other way of getting a sufficient force together to upset the current establishment in the UK. Yes the policy details are important, but without an underlying ideology, nothing will achieve political power.
1) I'm a member of the Cromwell Club and Rupert's direct instructions were just "be sensible" 2) 'Ethnat and civnat' is a silly way to put it. I spoke to the Bahamas equivalent of Joanna Lumley outside Turfton Street and new passports isn't an impossible task if the rule is 'do it or go to prison if you work at the Home Office. 3) If banning Halal is an ethnat position, then I'd deport all the Muslims in Birmingham to prevent animal torture. 4) What do we do? All move to Scotland and buy an FPV drone along with the largest rifles we can? 5) If Restore Britain are that useless, then perhaps control of the British armed forces should be sent to guard Helen Pluckrose after Counterweight left me to get stabbed to death in Mercia.
Chris Naylor did this to Europe, not Boris Johnson or Merkel or even Hitler! Birmingham City Council was run by a Crenshawist entryist and got caught. Everyone on the right is just incapable of locating members of Birmingham Labour.
They just vanish into thin air like Poochie in 'The Simpsons'. Where are John Cotton’s gangsters molls now?
Joanne Lumley isn't Indian and we're being murdered by invaders. Birmingham's Muslims cannot be policed due to the clan networks and attack us. We're forcibly deporting criminals and banning Halal. We can ban Kosher to be fair. It's our inheritance and it will not be stolen. Anyone clearly not wanted, leave this island peacefully.
Yeah, we're pretty screwed.
Many on the left don't like each other but will vote together to claim power, seeing it better to have 4/10 preferences ticked than 0/10.
We on the right, however, seem to demand utter purity and won't support anything if it doesn't tick 10/10 preferences.
In the meantime, Joe bloggs of General street, Middle ground, will continue to not vote or at best keep with labour/Tories because there is nothing coming out of Reform/Restore that will ease the cost of living, create opportunities for his children, or create a vision of a successful future Britain.
Migration is a big problem, but it is far from the only problem, and the parties need to be adding that to their set list.
We all remember one hit wonders.
And we all laugh at them now.
I have to agree with you about the right demanding purity and everything they want. I’ve always thought the right had higher IQs and better ideas but if we can’t understand that without power ideologies are irrelevant then we must be very stupid.
I think the right has spent a long time compromising, and has failed to get anything. The Tory big tent strategy as can be seen from their last time in power turned into what was basically a Blair tribute act. How to square the circle between compromise that leads to betrayal, and purity that leads to abject failure?
I don’t think that’s true. Historically the right has only had the Tories to vote for. Then Reform can give them most of what they want but not all so 4% which could be crucial, splinter off to Restore who cannot win outside Great Yarmouth. But people still follow them so they’ll get nothing except more socialism. Madness.
The Right has only had the Tories to vote for because the Tories were a compromise. A big tent party with multiple factions inside. Whereas the Left split into groupsicles.
What's happened is some of the component parts of the Tories have set out on their own, because there was no successful route to compromise with parts of the Tory party.
Get rid of the Tory wets and other parts who would be much more ideologically at home in Labour or the Libdems and it wouldn't take the Right long to start to get along again. The big egos only have so much weight.
I hope you’re right Dan. It’s interesting that Reform, Restore and the Tories now all have shades of benefit and government department and quango savings in their sights. Maybe there could be room for some compromises as the election gets nearer? Assuming there’s not one due soon we have time for the LibDems like Mel Stride to leave.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with this article. It's just a matter of time for Restore to implode , you can't have civic nats and cultural nats in the same party as ethno nats.
Reform need some Leader's in waiting to replace Farage, which they do have. Reform has a big problem in some constituencies with tory infiltrators who have wrecked branches but that's not insurmountable. I still think or hope Reform can turn things around because it really is the last chance to save our country without resorting to other means.
Yeah, I'll make a prediction now, the way things are going, at the next election, we'll end up with a full labour government, or greens and labour coalition.
If that happens, a repeat of Labour’s “landslide victory” where only one fifth of the electorate voted Labour, David Betz’s predictions will be realised. That’s the only result I can see in the long term.
Civil war? No way. More terrorism, more violent protests at the margins, but you really think there might be civil war?
If not, the British people are finished.
Fair enough, but could you elaborate please?
More likely Lib Dumbs than Greens, but yeah 😒
It’s true Farage and Lowe are slowing down and need others to share their burdens.
As far as Reform is concerned the obvious replacement is Yusuf, as stated. But how will that stand with Reform supporters?
For Restore,there’s Charlie Downes. He has become noticeable with the nasties of MSM baring their teeth - so he’s making progress.
In the background Andrew Bridgen hovers, how he fits in isn’t clear, but he will become more prominent as his litigations wind down.
I do know supporters of Restore who will vote Reform in any national ballot and vice versa, so the right isn’t that split (wishful thinking). Perhaps Tory’s are looking for prominence in a future right wing coalition, but they don’t merit it, as they simply aren’t trusted.
I’m surprised no thought has been given to how the Ukraine conflict will affect future UK politics.
I think migration issues will go quiet in the near future as the Ukraine conflict takes centre stage.
Putin is angry and no doubt he will do something over the UKs activity of supplying military equipment and expertise to Ukraine. What that is is anyone’s guess, but you can be sure it will be prominent.
MSM will show outrage over the evil empires actions but what of Labour supporters with their natural affinity with Russia?
The future isn’t as binary as your article would have it.
Trump has noted his reluctance to support NATO to back the UK in any retaliation Putin might enact. That would point to something in the pipeline.
The future for the UK looks even more dangerous than previously.
Agree with a lot of this but Reform still polling at 27%, which isnt bad given the wave of anti- Farage stuff in MSM. Reform vote may harden again as a result of the pictures of the super-dinghy and the Home Office's "please do not rape our women" pamphlet. I agree Reform would be diabolical in govt, but there is a resilient core to their support.
As I've said before the 'Right' need more time to sort themselves out which they will get as a coalition of the 'Left' will keep out the 'Right' at the next election.
The "when" might be in party season which starts in September. It will be an interesting time.
Yusuf represents the permanently angry and bitter section of the Reform base. The ones who use insults and abuse as a first resort. He's also been community noted on X more than any other UK politician. Basically he lies to keep his followers in a state of permanent rage. To the Yusufites there can be no accommodation with either the Conservatives or Restore, both must be destroyed. They also don't want any Conservative defectors: They think complete novices can run the ministries.
She was born to British parents because she had a genetic and cultural inheritance. I've got the brain of an Irish Solicitor and a piece of shrapnel grandpa earned from a British warship. The residents of Green Lane can go and live in Pakistan. This isn't unreasonable, they can go peacefully back to Mirpur. If anyone sees the Mayor or Birmingham please ask him to bugger off.
And when Reform and Restore implode, my guess is many of their supporters will go back to not voting. I like Kemi politically but the Tories are still rightly blamed for the wasted years and wasted Brexit. How many are going to trudge to the polling station to essentially vote against what they dislike more?
It was always going to end this way...Pete was right, fancy that?!!
Zia Yusuf as the leader of a political party is embarrassing, honestly he comes across as nasty and vindictive. Not a good look.
Where are the cool heads?
Could the English Revolution and the birth of the Commonwealth have been realised without a leader like Oliver Cromwell? The Puritans were the underlying force enabling the removal of Charles 1. So you do need a unifying ideology. I don’t see any other way of getting a sufficient force together to upset the current establishment in the UK. Yes the policy details are important, but without an underlying ideology, nothing will achieve political power.
1) I'm a member of the Cromwell Club and Rupert's direct instructions were just "be sensible" 2) 'Ethnat and civnat' is a silly way to put it. I spoke to the Bahamas equivalent of Joanna Lumley outside Turfton Street and new passports isn't an impossible task if the rule is 'do it or go to prison if you work at the Home Office. 3) If banning Halal is an ethnat position, then I'd deport all the Muslims in Birmingham to prevent animal torture. 4) What do we do? All move to Scotland and buy an FPV drone along with the largest rifles we can? 5) If Restore Britain are that useless, then perhaps control of the British armed forces should be sent to guard Helen Pluckrose after Counterweight left me to get stabbed to death in Mercia.
Chris Naylor did this to Europe, not Boris Johnson or Merkel or even Hitler! Birmingham City Council was run by a Crenshawist entryist and got caught. Everyone on the right is just incapable of locating members of Birmingham Labour.
They just vanish into thin air like Poochie in 'The Simpsons'. Where are John Cotton’s gangsters molls now?
Joanne Lumley isn't Indian and we're being murdered by invaders. Birmingham's Muslims cannot be policed due to the clan networks and attack us. We're forcibly deporting criminals and banning Halal. We can ban Kosher to be fair. It's our inheritance and it will not be stolen. Anyone clearly not wanted, leave this island peacefully.