The problem(s) with banning non-stun slaughter
In previous writings I’ve joined the chorus in calling for a ban on non-stun slaughter (as part of a wider hostile environment policy). The question, though, is whether it will work. After some debate, I’m not convinced that it will.
If I was going to author such a policy, I wouldn’t start from there. I would look at a more general meat industry policy, as an adjunct of agriculture, recognising that the meat industry itself is under threat. We’re now in the final stages of a thirty year trend where slaughterhouses are going under thanks to onerous regulation.
This is something I’ve written about dozens of times, and it’s something that should have been addressed immediately after Brexit. Policy should emphasise rebuilding small, local slaughterhouses.
I say this because you cannot talk about banning non-stun slaughter on animal welfare grounds when you’re increasingly having to transport animals over long distances to then have to wait in a queue at the slaughterhouse behind four other lorries. Those who are really serious about animal welfare in slaughterhouses need to look at the practice of employing poorly-trained foreign vets (often with limited language skills and no enforcement experience) to supervise welfare conditions.
I’m also of the view that if we ban non-stun slaughter, it will lead to a rise in clandestine backstreet slaughter operations - which is already a problem and is linked to large scale livestock theft. It may also lead to smuggled meat imports through Dover - for which we would have to implement even more stringent border inspection systems.
Ultimately, even if you deported one million Muslims, that would still leave three million. Islam is here to stay for the foreseeable future. You thus have a choice of accommodating halal, or driving it underground, presenting major challenges for enforcement (with a severe adverse impact for a huge number of animals).
The practical alternatives are to insist on mechanical slaughter (which will increase the price and help to disincentivise halal), and insist on labelling, plus better welfare enforcement in abattoirs. The question is whether we are genuinely concerned with animal welfare or are just proposing a ban as a stick with which to beat Muslims. As a matter of public policy you can compel councils to default to stunned meat in schools and hospitals, and insist that halal/kosher is conducted in specially built licenced slaughterhouses but an outright ban is both vindictive and counterproductive.
In a tweet this week, t’other North notes: “As a qualified EHO/meat inspector (now retired) I have worked extensively in slaughterhouses and visited over a hundred up and down the country. And, unlike many pundits, I have actually witnessed ritual slaughter - manual and mechanical. With that experience, I can attest that mechanical devices such as these (pictured) are at least equivalent to non-ritual slaughter in terms of handling and welfare when dealing with large animals. A similar device needs to be produced for "smalls".
With better regulation, and better enforcement, we stand a chance of combatting the already problematic practice of backstreet slaughter where we see the worst abuses. I’m all for hostile environment measures as part of a remigration policy but the problem with banning non-stun slaughter (as a standalone policy) is the same problem we see with many other policies from the slop right. Ideologues lack the ability to make their policies useful to people who don’t share their obsessions (the average normie who doesn’t care what’s in their curry after nine pints).
A broader reform of the meat industry not only saves it from oblivion, it will go along way to improving animal welfare standards overall. If, though, you show no interest in that then your policy is just about punishing Muslims and Jews. If that’s your intent then just say so instead of pretending it’s about animal welfare. People on both sides of the debate will appreciate the honesty.



Like I said before, private “agencies” like Eville and Jones, which import vets on the cheap with no experience, need to go. That was my second employer, and my wife’s first, all the hate we and others feel for it, is well deserved. - You do, however, create and expose a problem, we don’t have people here for the job, and we offer shit pay. That needs to change too.
Unfortunately, the government is not in a much better position, at all.
And while we are talking about policies - what happens when you cut the public sector even more, but create more bastards like Eville and Jones?
On the other side, being pigheaded can be a policy too… - you can just ban things, and then be forced to deal with the fallout.
Which brings us to enforcement, not only do you need people with a lot of power for it, you need arms and attachments to the police, and then the police needs more powers and we need to mandate that everyone has to comply at least with being identified, let alone breach, search and detain… and I am not talking about the knowledge of the legislation here at all… we have animal health officers for that, but very few and very underpaid.
I actually enforce welfare, and have to deal with abattoirs, remove halal and 70% loose their chief source of income, yes, it’s that bad.
Small abattoirs + attached butchers, with local kids trained for it for local communities seem to be what everyone talks about.
The problem always is, money, in the end.
The large supermarket chains will nuke that immediately.
Good one Pete, we do need to talk about all of this, and no one thought it would be simple anyway…
M
Yes, as always there is much to be thought about when proposing banning things.
Apparently, according to a Jewish friend, Jews are not that bothered about Kosher. It's a bit of a niche thing with many jews happy to eat whatever is available if they can't get it.
I'm told that there are a few unlicensed slaughter houses around Bradford...and no doubt elsewhere.