Great essay, I too am sick of hearing ‘Free Palestine’ and am fully behind Israel, even the gradual occupation of the West Bank which I used to be apposed to when I got my news from the BBC!
And let's be clear here. I would like to see 'the Palestinians' aka Gaza utterly destroyed, flattened, as well as Iran (not its people), the Houthis and Hezbollah. All of these are the greatest danger to the survival of non-Islamic anything. And if you think once you've become a muslim you're off the hook, then you misunderstand their raison d'etre.
Judging by the hidden replies and their abusive vitriol you’ve upset the people who march every week in London. I agree with everything you say here Pete.
No bloody chance of any two state solution being accepted by Hamas as it just doesn’t suit their real objective and that of their supporters in Iran, Saudi Arabia and so on, namely the destruction of Israel the only democracy in the Middle East.
But as Pete says, when they have destroyed the Jewish state, that means they have their own. Where do they get their support and and finance from then? They have a first class incentive to continue this war.
I regard both Muslims and Jews as hostile, primitive - they both mutilate penises and hate pigs - aliens whose presence in the UK is not in the interests of my people.
When it comes to Palestine, the historical truth is that the Palestinians are the indigenous population and the Jewish population overwhelmingly consists of people who arrived in the last 100 years and their descendants.
I'm not a religious cretin so claims based on the Bible have no effect on me.
The only possible outcomes involve total victory for either side. The expulsion of the Jews would do far less damage to us than the expulsion of the Palestinians.
There: a rational response based on the truth and the interests of the British people.
Exactly. Supposed nationalists supporting Israel are acting against our interests. We will end up with the Palestinians over here if Israel gets their way.
First there is genocide and then there is war and Hamas want to eradicate ALL Jews, and that's genocide if ever achieved and Israel just want to live at peace with their neighbours.
There is no genocide. It is utter nonsense, just as there was no famine.
If there is a genocide then either the IDF don't know what they are supposed to do, or they aren't very good at doing it. Given that they are, one of, if not THE, most effective military force in the world, pro rata, then I suspect it's because they aren't trying to effect one.
Organisations like Amnesty had to change their definition of genocide to try and make Gaza fit it.
Any shortage of food in Gaza is singularly down to Hamas.
The closest historical parallel to October 7th is the Irish rising of Easter 1916. Death toll of 600. Half military half civilian. It had little support from the Irish. But the Britis reaction galvanised support. That rising worked eventually.
Palestinians in Gaza are estimated to be around 99% Muslim.
As we are frequently told by Muslims, “we love death the way you love life”, the Palestinians and their supporters should be thanking the Israelis, not criticising them. The IDF are giving the Palestinians exactly what they most desire.
Islamic teachings state that anyone killed unjustly or while defending themselves, their families, or their property is granted the reward of martyrdom. This includes innocent civilians who lose their lives in conflict zones, under falling debris, or through acts of violence they did not instigate.
So as a bonus, they get to spend longer in paradise than they would have done otherwise.
Hassan Nasrallah: The late leader of Hezbollah stated in a 2004 interview, "The Jews love life, so that is what we will take away from them. We will win, because they love life and we love death."
Fathi Hammad: A Hamas official and member of the Palestinian Legislative Council stated in a 2012 speech, "For the Palestinian people, death became an industry... We desire death, as you desire life."
Ismail Haniyeh: The former head of Hamas invoked a similar sentiment during a 2014 broadcast on Al-Aqsa TV, stating, "We love death like our enemies love life."
Then of course we have those charming fellows of Islamic State (ISIS).
The failings of the leftists who are on board with free Palestine aside the Jews who started this war believe that if they bring about the apocalypse and build the new temple on the Mount then the messiah will return and retarded useful idiots like Pete Hegseth are dumb enough to believe it will be Christ. Who is the real death cult here?
I think for leftists and those steeped in anti western propaganda Israel hatred is a form of self hatred. It’s a safe way of taking all of the guilt that’s been stoked up by years of our education systems and media constantly telling us that the west, Europe, heck “white people” are the cause of all evil in the world and placing it on a scapegoat that has the audacity to fight for its own survival against the forces of third world chaos.
Yes the settlements are bad, there are some absolute arseholes in Israel and some of the actions of Israel are awful.
But this proxy war is why it’s so raw and aggressive on both sides. Israel/palestine has become a symbol detached from the actual reality.
The fact that it’s a Jewish state that’s fighting for its existence is something that provokes the ethnats and Israel’s struggle against the forces ranged against them gets transferred onto Nazi germany by the grotbag right - “Germany under Hitler was fighting for white survival against anti white forces”.
It’s so far gone now since October 7th I really don’t know how we pull out of this mess. It literally has nothing to do with our own problems but the worst on both sides insist on making it all about us. It’s a mental illness.
Thanks Pete for the moral clarity here. Israel, for all its flaws and some seriously unpleasant people on its right, remains the only democracy in the region and a bulwark against Hamas savagery.
I hope all the so called “anti-Zionists” meaning the age old supporters of Jew hatred, and haters of Jews, following this article which I support 100 %, will realise that they are not wanted here. They probably also support the Muslim claims to Andalusia. This is not about the land of Israel. It is really about Muslim supremacy in lands they thought they had conquered 1400 years ago.
Great essay, I too am sick of hearing ‘Free Palestine’ and am fully behind Israel, even the gradual occupation of the West Bank which I used to be apposed to when I got my news from the BBC!
A trustworthy compass must point North.
(Pete) North has a highly accurate moral compass.
Very, very well said, Pete. Spot on.
And let's be clear here. I would like to see 'the Palestinians' aka Gaza utterly destroyed, flattened, as well as Iran (not its people), the Houthis and Hezbollah. All of these are the greatest danger to the survival of non-Islamic anything. And if you think once you've become a muslim you're off the hook, then you misunderstand their raison d'etre.
Judging by the hidden replies and their abusive vitriol you’ve upset the people who march every week in London. I agree with everything you say here Pete.
No bloody chance of any two state solution being accepted by Hamas as it just doesn’t suit their real objective and that of their supporters in Iran, Saudi Arabia and so on, namely the destruction of Israel the only democracy in the Middle East.
But as Pete says, when they have destroyed the Jewish state, that means they have their own. Where do they get their support and and finance from then? They have a first class incentive to continue this war.
I regard both Muslims and Jews as hostile, primitive - they both mutilate penises and hate pigs - aliens whose presence in the UK is not in the interests of my people.
When it comes to Palestine, the historical truth is that the Palestinians are the indigenous population and the Jewish population overwhelmingly consists of people who arrived in the last 100 years and their descendants.
I'm not a religious cretin so claims based on the Bible have no effect on me.
The only possible outcomes involve total victory for either side. The expulsion of the Jews would do far less damage to us than the expulsion of the Palestinians.
There: a rational response based on the truth and the interests of the British people.
Jews 'primitive' - you have lost the plot.
They practice genital mutilation. You can't get more primitive than that.
I think you can if you really think about it!
Exactly. Supposed nationalists supporting Israel are acting against our interests. We will end up with the Palestinians over here if Israel gets their way.
So would you deport Nigella Lawson then, for example?
Is she an Israeli citizen?
No, but according to your comment above she is an unwelcome alien
Supporting Israel is as at least as retarded as supporting Palestine.
These people are happy to send the Palestinians over here to Europe so they can take the land. Fuck both sides.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y52gSxWP_PM&t=709s
But the Israeli side is not going anywhere so you need to get used to it.
Where do you stand on genocide and ethnic cleansing? By the way I am not “far left”
The stuff that comes out of the mouths of Netanyahu and Ben Gvir is beyond horrendous
Please watch the documentary “The Bibi Files”
Netanyahu knows that if he loses the election, he will end up in prison for war crimes
First there is genocide and then there is war and Hamas want to eradicate ALL Jews, and that's genocide if ever achieved and Israel just want to live at peace with their neighbours.
There is no genocide. It is utter nonsense, just as there was no famine.
If there is a genocide then either the IDF don't know what they are supposed to do, or they aren't very good at doing it. Given that they are, one of, if not THE, most effective military force in the world, pro rata, then I suspect it's because they aren't trying to effect one.
Organisations like Amnesty had to change their definition of genocide to try and make Gaza fit it.
Any shortage of food in Gaza is singularly down to Hamas.
The closest historical parallel to October 7th is the Irish rising of Easter 1916. Death toll of 600. Half military half civilian. It had little support from the Irish. But the Britis reaction galvanised support. That rising worked eventually.
Palestinians in Gaza are estimated to be around 99% Muslim.
As we are frequently told by Muslims, “we love death the way you love life”, the Palestinians and their supporters should be thanking the Israelis, not criticising them. The IDF are giving the Palestinians exactly what they most desire.
Islamic teachings state that anyone killed unjustly or while defending themselves, their families, or their property is granted the reward of martyrdom. This includes innocent civilians who lose their lives in conflict zones, under falling debris, or through acts of violence they did not instigate.
So as a bonus, they get to spend longer in paradise than they would have done otherwise.
Hassan Nasrallah: The late leader of Hezbollah stated in a 2004 interview, "The Jews love life, so that is what we will take away from them. We will win, because they love life and we love death."
Fathi Hammad: A Hamas official and member of the Palestinian Legislative Council stated in a 2012 speech, "For the Palestinian people, death became an industry... We desire death, as you desire life."
Ismail Haniyeh: The former head of Hamas invoked a similar sentiment during a 2014 broadcast on Al-Aqsa TV, stating, "We love death like our enemies love life."
Then of course we have those charming fellows of Islamic State (ISIS).
https://youtu.be/zlfagPS6490?si=RieLucW3YaGHToll&t=32
The failings of the leftists who are on board with free Palestine aside the Jews who started this war believe that if they bring about the apocalypse and build the new temple on the Mount then the messiah will return and retarded useful idiots like Pete Hegseth are dumb enough to believe it will be Christ. Who is the real death cult here?
https://x.com/olooneyjohn/status/2102723704702517266?s=46&t=TIG23fNTotpzFOpWid227Q
My views to a T and the Arab states around Israel could learn a think or two from them as to how to turn a desert into a land of milk and honey!
IIRC Israel was about to start training young adult Gazans to do just that. 7/10 stopped that idea DEAD.
I think for leftists and those steeped in anti western propaganda Israel hatred is a form of self hatred. It’s a safe way of taking all of the guilt that’s been stoked up by years of our education systems and media constantly telling us that the west, Europe, heck “white people” are the cause of all evil in the world and placing it on a scapegoat that has the audacity to fight for its own survival against the forces of third world chaos.
Yes the settlements are bad, there are some absolute arseholes in Israel and some of the actions of Israel are awful.
But this proxy war is why it’s so raw and aggressive on both sides. Israel/palestine has become a symbol detached from the actual reality.
The fact that it’s a Jewish state that’s fighting for its existence is something that provokes the ethnats and Israel’s struggle against the forces ranged against them gets transferred onto Nazi germany by the grotbag right - “Germany under Hitler was fighting for white survival against anti white forces”.
It’s so far gone now since October 7th I really don’t know how we pull out of this mess. It literally has nothing to do with our own problems but the worst on both sides insist on making it all about us. It’s a mental illness.
Thanks Pete for the moral clarity here. Israel, for all its flaws and some seriously unpleasant people on its right, remains the only democracy in the region and a bulwark against Hamas savagery.
I hope all the so called “anti-Zionists” meaning the age old supporters of Jew hatred, and haters of Jews, following this article which I support 100 %, will realise that they are not wanted here. They probably also support the Muslim claims to Andalusia. This is not about the land of Israel. It is really about Muslim supremacy in lands they thought they had conquered 1400 years ago.
Just like the people of Palestine then.