Lowe's on their list of bogueymen then. They see the Right in a different way. Unless Reform takes a huge dive Restore will not supplant them. Ben Habib has shot his bolt already, the Farage haters have abandoned him at an alarming rate. Labour out and forever is the goal - fighting and bickering threatens this. Lowe supporters would rather see Farage fall than Starmer in their ridiculous hysteria and misplaced hero worship. Lowe is not the Mr Nice Guy he pretends to be.
My friends support Restore but will wait for the election before deciding whether to vote for Farage or Lowe, dependent on their parties standing at the time.
They don’t trust Farage but will vote for Reform if he is the only viable option.
I find it strange how people regard indoctrinated left as tactically aware, but non globalists as doctrinaire.
Non globalists that I know (or FAR right according to MSM) are well aware of the UKs problems and believe it the last election they can make a difference, with reason.
I expect as much tactical voting amongst non globalist as globalists at the next election - if not more.
You already know the Left seek offence wherever they can find it. It is the only fuel that binds them. Google Rupert Lowe and he's on Hope not Hate's list. The people I know who favour Lowe would still vote for him if he was caught in bed with a goat and P Mandelson. He is a weird messiah to them. Ask them the potential names of his Cabinet - they say it's too early, we've got another 3 years yet. I personally don't think he'll keep Yarmouth. Reform dropped a bit but have risen again of late. ref: electionmapsuk - /nowcast.
You may be right about Great Yarmouth as a friend lived there and thinks Lowe will be a goner.
But I look at the professional politicians available to Restore etc and think that Lowes strategy of bringing in business people may prove astute as Reforms use of failed MPs is unattractive to voters.
Andrew Bridgen is an exception and Reforms loss is Restores gain.
Big story’s to emerge about covid in the USA which will have repercussions over here.
Then there’s the rape gang prosecutions and who knows what that will reveal.
Still a lot of situations to affect the parties leading to a general election.
I'll say this about Farage: He can sustain multiple vendettas at once. Giles Dilnot of Conservative Home said that Farage is the most vindictive man he's ever met. Reform have embarked on this strategy that all other right wing parties must be destroyed, their members must grovel at Nigel's feet and beg forgiveness and if there's any energy left over maybe they'll start opposing Labour.
The trouble is that if we had PR instead of FPtP can you see this lot forming a coalition? This is an advantage the Left have right now: Is Starmer planning the personal demise of Zack Polanski or Ed Davey because they dare to not come under his benevolent umbrella? If it's a hung parliament in 2029 Starmer is in a much better position to negotiate that rainbow coalition.
To quote from the Matrix, Farage is clearly not The One. But he, and Reform, have moved the dial dramatically in just the last 2 years - and we should be forever grateful to Farage for that, even if we believe (as you and I do) that he has squandered what could yet prove to be the last chance to save the UK.
So now we have Rupert Lowe. Is he The One? I don't know - the chances are slim, let's be honest. 𝗛𝗼𝘄𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿:
Of course there are similarities, but Lowe is not Farage. Politics today is about trust, or lack of it, and Lowe is far more sincere than Farage. Unlike Farage, he isn't in it for money - he donates his salary to charity. People believe he will (try to) do what he says. They believe Farage will build the Uniparty2.0 and surround himself with idiots like Tice & Bull. There is, after all, some evidence.
Furthermore, Restore is 𝗻𝗼𝘁 starting from scratch, as Reform were. As throughout history, Restore stands of the shoulders of those who came before. The dial has been moved, by Reform. Many (transferable) local branch structures have been established, by Reform. It's obvious that no one can replace Farage from within, but Lowe can effectively replace him from without - in the same way that Farage has effectively done that to the Tories.
it may well prove to be that Lowe fx it up, just as Farage has. You may well be right - as you usually are. But it doesn't matter! Someone else will replace Lowe in that case, and eventually the next in line 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 be The One; someone with the "populist" charisma to lead, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 who understands that saving the country needs more than soundbites.
So chill Pete. Keep doing the great work you do, but don't take it personally. Don't get involved in flame wars with people who want the same thing you want, but don't have your analytical capabilities. Stay angry, but angry with the leftard morons who lie daily to advance their ideology.
The UK is probably already lost, but at least we now have 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲 momentum slowly building in the fight. Let's allow things to "run their course", and see where we end up.
Some policies of Reform and Restore might be similar, but does anyone actually have confidence in Reform delivering anything given their embrace of disreputable Tories? Restore has the teeth that Reform will never grow. As an aside, the boomer coding of Reform, including the Butlins style routines and bingo nights, is bloody awful. Even if Restore prevent Reform from tacking more to the centre in retarded ways, a positive purpose would have been served.
Yusuf and Farage were ‘dishonourable’ but Lowe deserved it?
After decades of dishonourable government why on Gods Earth do you think anybody will trust them?
If voters agree with your viewpoint they deserve to be lied to, again.
Lowe isn’t a nice character - I don’t like him - I don’t care - he says what is going on from his point of view and more importantly won’t change and I agree with him.
If I vote Tory Labour or Reform I deserve what I get - a totalitarian Parliament, no rights, second or third class citizenship and eventual replacement of being British and Christian within 20 years (I’ll be dead but most of my family will still be living).
What you have written on Reform or now Restore rings true and I cannot disagree with your final analysis that in order to form a workable and successful government you must first have strict policy foundations.
However perhaps, more in hope, I also believe that if a week is a long time in politics then three years is an eternity.
What shape Restore Britain will be in come the next election and what the result of that General Election will be is still unknown.
My best guess, which is hardly rocket science, is that it will either result in a Left or Right leaning coalition - you can take your pick!
Depends on the numbers but if Reform is the latest party I can see him asking the Tories to join him as the junior partner. Whether the Tories would is another matter!
Hell would freeze over before Farage asked Rupert for helpl!!
I think the Tories would work with the other two RW parties (although my caveat is that I don't think Reform are Right Wing) because a foot in the door is better than being shut out in their minds. But Reform would have to ditch the strategy of destroying the Conservatives.
Lowe and Starkey. Starkey: "Restore will split the right."
Lowe" What if they do? I'm a democrat, if I lose the voter has spoken and I'll clear off."
16% of the High St have heard of him. Nuff said.
I live in a far left area and all the people know of Rupert Lowe.
If Restore are unknown why are MSM blocking them?
Same happened with Reform but now they are mainstream.
Farage taken pieces of silver?
The British people are Dodos if you are right.
Lowe's on their list of bogueymen then. They see the Right in a different way. Unless Reform takes a huge dive Restore will not supplant them. Ben Habib has shot his bolt already, the Farage haters have abandoned him at an alarming rate. Labour out and forever is the goal - fighting and bickering threatens this. Lowe supporters would rather see Farage fall than Starmer in their ridiculous hysteria and misplaced hero worship. Lowe is not the Mr Nice Guy he pretends to be.
You must know a lot of Lowe supporters.
My friends support Restore but will wait for the election before deciding whether to vote for Farage or Lowe, dependent on their parties standing at the time.
They don’t trust Farage but will vote for Reform if he is the only viable option.
I find it strange how people regard indoctrinated left as tactically aware, but non globalists as doctrinaire.
Non globalists that I know (or FAR right according to MSM) are well aware of the UKs problems and believe it the last election they can make a difference, with reason.
I expect as much tactical voting amongst non globalist as globalists at the next election - if not more.
You already know the Left seek offence wherever they can find it. It is the only fuel that binds them. Google Rupert Lowe and he's on Hope not Hate's list. The people I know who favour Lowe would still vote for him if he was caught in bed with a goat and P Mandelson. He is a weird messiah to them. Ask them the potential names of his Cabinet - they say it's too early, we've got another 3 years yet. I personally don't think he'll keep Yarmouth. Reform dropped a bit but have risen again of late. ref: electionmapsuk - /nowcast.
You may be right about Great Yarmouth as a friend lived there and thinks Lowe will be a goner.
But I look at the professional politicians available to Restore etc and think that Lowes strategy of bringing in business people may prove astute as Reforms use of failed MPs is unattractive to voters.
Andrew Bridgen is an exception and Reforms loss is Restores gain.
Big story’s to emerge about covid in the USA which will have repercussions over here.
Then there’s the rape gang prosecutions and who knows what that will reveal.
Still a lot of situations to affect the parties leading to a general election.
I'll say this about Farage: He can sustain multiple vendettas at once. Giles Dilnot of Conservative Home said that Farage is the most vindictive man he's ever met. Reform have embarked on this strategy that all other right wing parties must be destroyed, their members must grovel at Nigel's feet and beg forgiveness and if there's any energy left over maybe they'll start opposing Labour.
The trouble is that if we had PR instead of FPtP can you see this lot forming a coalition? This is an advantage the Left have right now: Is Starmer planning the personal demise of Zack Polanski or Ed Davey because they dare to not come under his benevolent umbrella? If it's a hung parliament in 2029 Starmer is in a much better position to negotiate that rainbow coalition.
Labour perhaps, Starmers dead.
"Still, though, this has to run its course."
This is the key point.
To quote from the Matrix, Farage is clearly not The One. But he, and Reform, have moved the dial dramatically in just the last 2 years - and we should be forever grateful to Farage for that, even if we believe (as you and I do) that he has squandered what could yet prove to be the last chance to save the UK.
So now we have Rupert Lowe. Is he The One? I don't know - the chances are slim, let's be honest. 𝗛𝗼𝘄𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿:
Of course there are similarities, but Lowe is not Farage. Politics today is about trust, or lack of it, and Lowe is far more sincere than Farage. Unlike Farage, he isn't in it for money - he donates his salary to charity. People believe he will (try to) do what he says. They believe Farage will build the Uniparty2.0 and surround himself with idiots like Tice & Bull. There is, after all, some evidence.
Furthermore, Restore is 𝗻𝗼𝘁 starting from scratch, as Reform were. As throughout history, Restore stands of the shoulders of those who came before. The dial has been moved, by Reform. Many (transferable) local branch structures have been established, by Reform. It's obvious that no one can replace Farage from within, but Lowe can effectively replace him from without - in the same way that Farage has effectively done that to the Tories.
it may well prove to be that Lowe fx it up, just as Farage has. You may well be right - as you usually are. But it doesn't matter! Someone else will replace Lowe in that case, and eventually the next in line 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 be The One; someone with the "populist" charisma to lead, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 who understands that saving the country needs more than soundbites.
So chill Pete. Keep doing the great work you do, but don't take it personally. Don't get involved in flame wars with people who want the same thing you want, but don't have your analytical capabilities. Stay angry, but angry with the leftard morons who lie daily to advance their ideology.
The UK is probably already lost, but at least we now have 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲 momentum slowly building in the fight. Let's allow things to "run their course", and see where we end up.
Some policies of Reform and Restore might be similar, but does anyone actually have confidence in Reform delivering anything given their embrace of disreputable Tories? Restore has the teeth that Reform will never grow. As an aside, the boomer coding of Reform, including the Butlins style routines and bingo nights, is bloody awful. Even if Restore prevent Reform from tacking more to the centre in retarded ways, a positive purpose would have been served.
If its civil war, then so be it. Our enemies need to realise how angry the Saxons are, though.
Yusuf and Farage were ‘dishonourable’ but Lowe deserved it?
After decades of dishonourable government why on Gods Earth do you think anybody will trust them?
If voters agree with your viewpoint they deserve to be lied to, again.
Lowe isn’t a nice character - I don’t like him - I don’t care - he says what is going on from his point of view and more importantly won’t change and I agree with him.
If I vote Tory Labour or Reform I deserve what I get - a totalitarian Parliament, no rights, second or third class citizenship and eventual replacement of being British and Christian within 20 years (I’ll be dead but most of my family will still be living).
This isn't infighting.
Reform and Restore (are hopefully) very different.
Restore calling out the Zi0/ NeoCon Iran disaster on day one, a clear example.
What you have written on Reform or now Restore rings true and I cannot disagree with your final analysis that in order to form a workable and successful government you must first have strict policy foundations.
However perhaps, more in hope, I also believe that if a week is a long time in politics then three years is an eternity.
What shape Restore Britain will be in come the next election and what the result of that General Election will be is still unknown.
My best guess, which is hardly rocket science, is that it will either result in a Left or Right leaning coalition - you can take your pick!
A right wing coalition will require a willingness for Reform to work with another RW party. Can you see that happening? I'm doubtful.
Depends on the numbers but if Reform is the latest party I can see him asking the Tories to join him as the junior partner. Whether the Tories would is another matter!
Hell would freeze over before Farage asked Rupert for helpl!!
I think the Tories would work with the other two RW parties (although my caveat is that I don't think Reform are Right Wing) because a foot in the door is better than being shut out in their minds. But Reform would have to ditch the strategy of destroying the Conservatives.