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Gilgamech's avatar

Many very good questions you raise in this short article. I expect few answers will be forthcoming alas.

Martin Spencer's avatar

I see my long comment has been banned, but perhaps a short one might get through.

It is simply not possible to prevent the historic people of this archipelago becoming a minority without pursuing "ethno-nationalist" policies.

Pete North's avatar

Not my doing. Have unhidden your longer comment. I will look into the auto-moderation system.

Jonathan Stuart-Brown's avatar

I suspect Charlie D is fishing for Elon Musk to spot him as the young long term bet to finance his agenda.

Charlie D, Carl Benjamin, Connor M, Steve Laws are already planning life beyond Lowe and beyond the 2029 election. They have the membership database and contact details. They are practising Westminster by-election skills. They believe their time will come.

Hitler needed The Wall Street Crash, 6 million men suddenly unemployed, chaos and communists (in the UK read radical Muslims and mass arrivals by boat) to be 'elected' to power. Then Hitler could claim a mandate for his real priority of dealing with the Jewish problem.

Lowe is on board if not as radical as Charlie D. Kosher food being illegal (which no Jews in the UK) and insisting the big three pro-Israel Reform MPs must go (Suella Braverman, Robert Jenrick, Danny Kruger) are the tell tale signs.

Hitler let Heydrich, Himmler and Eichman do the dirty work.

Martin Spencer's avatar

Lowe as Hitler? Hilarious.

It is not possible to ban Halal meat without also banning Kosher meat.

Jonathan Stuart-Brown's avatar

Halal meat is an act of worship to Allah. Eating it is an act of worship. For Christians and Jews it breaks the second of the ten commandments in Exodus 20.

That is the basis to embrace it or reject it. Depends whether you want to worship The God of The Bible or not worship The God of The Bible.

SJAB's avatar

I’m kind of uncertain about an outright ban,I really hate the barbarity in Halal and Kosher but as far as I know,Jews living here have not imposed their relgious practices on everyone else,but had their own methods and food markets while many slaughter houses seem to have kowtowed to the Halal method of killing across the board whether the indigenous,culturally christian peoples want it or have asked for it or not and you can’t be sure if you’re buying it or not.Its like many things,e.g. the addition of folic acid to flour,we are not given a choice. If they kept to their own for religious reasons that’s one thing but this forcing it on everyone is entirely another.

Dykeward's avatar

There is a public view on genocide and an international body one. The chief international / legal requirements are: i ) clear intent and ​ii) "to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such."

The ICJ did find a plausible risk of violations under the Genocide Convention, which set off an international firestorm. Israel has supplied its counter and it will be years before a view is given. Regardless of what one thinks of the ICJ.

The ICC has also issued war crimes summons for several senior Israelis.

The UN Comission of Inquiry in the territories has also released its report saying Israel's actions meet the threshold for genocidal acts under Article 2.

Much of this relies on reports by other international bodies like the WHO, UNRWA etc.

Your past posts / tweets have also stated that you don't care what Israel does either in Gaza (Hamas) or the West Bank (Fatah) so this really seems like a ridiculous point to take umbrage at.

The Martyr's avatar

As you said Pete you’re reading too much into Charlie Downes’ comments. You confuse him with someone competent.

Simon Lakin's avatar

Agreed Pete,

So what is Restore’s plan say to the Israeli’s you know the intelligence we get from the Mossad, Shin Bet and the Aman. We don’t need it thanks. That search pod that sits underneath the Typhoon jet we don’t want that either. Checkpoint firewall nah keep em. And those avocados shove em where the sun don’t shine.

They aren’t a serious party Pete. 😤

George's avatar

I quite like Charlie Downes, he isn’t phased by self important interviewers like Hartley Brewer.

But I do question his phrasing.

Hamas’s declared aim is to eliminate the people of Israel, so deleting Hamas is a logical response.

But why does Charlie call it genocide? Elimination would be a far better description and less controversial, given Israel’s history.

In addition, why does Charlie criticise Israel for a response any country would undertake to protect their people from terrorism?

I expect Lowe to ask for an explanation.

Restores young male and female talent is better than anything in the other political parties.

But what worries me is the establishment have people well used to placing sleepers in parties.

I’m sure there are one or two in Restore, I just hope Charlie’s not one of them.

As far as everyone being in step?

The other parties are well coached in their politburo type globalist politics.

It’s nice to see them having some leeway as long as nobody goes overboard.

Martin Spencer's avatar

The existential issue is whether or not we become a third-class minority in what really is our ancestral homeland. (Genetic archaeology tells us the majority of our ancestors were here 4,000 years ago. In contrast, the Jewish population of Israel overwhelmingly consists of people who arrived in the last 100 years and their descendants.)

I reckon it's demographically too late to prevent that but it might be possible to delay it for a generation, but that would require policies that you would describe as "ethno-nationalist", even though that's the only sort of nationalism there is, given what a nation is. "Civic Nationalism" seems to involve pretending that foreigners who queue rather than push in are just as British as we are.

It's very noticeable that the most histrionic attacks on Restore in general and Charlie Downes in particular are coming from people who support the right of the Jewish people to a homeland in Palestine where they are the majority. Have any of them explained why what they regard as a moral desire when held by Jews becomes immoral when held by the indigenous people of this archipelago?

Krb981's avatar

I hate politicians. In total arseholes.

John Jones's avatar

I can't help but feel this is another ground hog day - for Restore - maybe Reform tomorrow? - are these two parties worth the effort to even comment upon them. ….. next.

Gilgamech's avatar

If nothing else, being the only party of neutrality would unlock a huge number of votes from the clear anti war majority who have no political home. It would also attract massive publicity from the tame media and all other political parties. No publicity is bad publicity??

Jonathan Stuart-Brown's avatar

So Lowe tells the USA to take their military off our island and we will stand alone (as we did when we were losing WW1 and WW2 despite a monumental gutsy effort). Then Russia or the CCP or both just move into the Shetland Isles. They immediately open negotiations with the Scottish First minister to give an independent Scotland a massive 20 year interest free loan for a 99 year lease on the Shetland Isles and the North Sea.

They offer Plaid the same deal for recognising their 99 year ownership of Shetland and the North Sea.

Scotland and Wales now have the one thing which meant the 2014 Scottish referendum narrowly failed. They do not need English/London/Westminster/Whitehall money to run their government.

They can tell Westminster that they are going indie recognised by Russia, China, and their allies from Iran, Pakistan to Argentina, Venezuela, North Korea, some Arab states. Probably France and Spain as well.

Once the UK breaks up, Gibraltar is freemans. The Falklands as well. Not covered by treaty.

Scotland and Wales tell London, the £3 trillion debt is all theirs.

Bankrupt England can no longer subsidise Northern Ireland and the Uk has broken up.

Cornwall, Kent, Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria consider options as we move towards the old Anglo Saxon kingdoms.

Trump if still around does a deal for his Scottish golf clubs sake and to get some of the oil. After all Lowe told him where to go.

Charlie D, Connor, Steve Laws and Carl Benjamin seize power and throw out the Jews (as prophesied in Ezekiel 16 verse 16 and Ezekiel 36) and build statues to Edward 1 and his 1290 expulsion.

The foolish children do not realise the real Cromwell (not Rupert Lowe pretending to be Cromwell) in 1655 invited the Jews back into England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

Gilgamech's avatar

I read this title as “Britain used to have an identity crisis and we need to bring it back!” 😁