Facetiousness aside, the opposite has been true for the last 60 years, no? Both fascism and "fascism" are ostensibly unpopular in Germany precisely because of WW2. So if a party with a 'grotbag' problem can nonetheless make it in Germany, it could just as well make it in the UK.
CDU is routinely described as conservative and centre-right, and they're the next most popular party. Whether you believe that or not based on their governance is up to you though.
Any largeish RW party will attract some grotbags, unless there’s a receptacle further to the right. AfD are probably big enough to ignore them. Lowe’s Restore is a useful jam jar for wasps - who knows, Lowe may be part of a cunning plot conceived by mysterious financiers with foreign sounding names?
(((Hermer))) eh? Another die for Israel, war with Russia civnat. Just like Henry Bolton and all the other rats that crawl out of the wood work if ever anyone tries to divert from the mainstream of prescribed political thought.
Restore was set up by Lowe to damage Farage. He recruited purely on that basis. Any promise of becoming a party that could possibly challenge the establishment was/is a lie. I'm happy to be labelled a spinless coward/wimp for getting behind Farage, Reform UK at least has a good chance of winning a GE and putting the brakes on the woke uniparty madness we've all been forced to endure. Both Restore and Reform claim to be going to the same destination, but on different trains. Reform have become a political juggernaut. Restore are still an old bitter man in his attic who doesn't even write his own social media posts.
There is zero possibility of preventing the indigenous peoples of this archipelago from becoming second- (or even third-) class minorities in the absence of "ethno-nationalist" policies. Those who go along with the "civic-nationalist" (absurd concept) assertion that someone who arrived 20 years ago but has a UK passport and queues rather than pushes-in is just as British as we are is a combination of thick, ignorant and cowardly. But then we discovered during the Covid Tyranny that most of our countrymen are bed-wetting obedient sheep.
It really depends on integration and assimilation. The problem really is the volume and sources of immigration. Immigration should be composed of people who can be assimilated and integrated and that can’t happen if you have the volume and type of immigration we have seen.
Pete states: "Ultimately, a party like Restore needed to attract the patriotic officer class. They are an essential component of any serious movement, not least because of their connections, money and experience."
Ain't that the truth. That said, most of the patriotic officer class is nowhere near fully aware of the existential issues we face, nor the time scale to remedy them. Nor, perhaps, the measures necessary to remedy them.
Restore needs numbers. Restore needs the support of every single "right-wing" man and woman in England/Britain. The grotbag" numbers were quite content to support Restore, even if the party was not quite what they wanted it to be. Restore also needs the officer class. This could have happened, but the calamitous mistake has been made re allowing "it's the Jews" to become the talking point rather than: "we don't care about the why's and the how's; we care about the issue in front of our eyes which is Islam and our imminent replacement as a civilisation."
The low-IQ right-wingers don't seem to understand that persuading Middle England about the obvious threat is absolutely possible, whilst persuading them to first recognise the "Jewish problem" is an absolute non-starter.
What a shame. Restore had such promise. A sitting MP, a friendly Elon Musk. A tragedy really, but at least we now know there is no democratic solution.
The big success of the left after WW2 has been to classify the “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP)” as right wing and blame the “right” for the Nazis. If you care to look at the policies of the NSDAP, there is no way that they could be mistaken for conservative views. We are still bending to the far left’s classification and using their language.
Well it was collectivist and authoritarian. Yes of course it’s never neatly on the left-right spectrum, but in my view it was a lot like socialism and communism in certain aspects. I think the difference might have been ownership of the means of production, but if you look at what happened in practice, the “owners” did not have real control, because the state was overarching. Similar to Mussolini’s fascism. Of course the nasty bits were the extreme ethno-nationalism and the propensity to murder the intellectually and physically handicapped.
Both Melanie Phillips and Daniel Finkelstein have, in recent weeks, denied that the indigenous peoples of this archipelago have any right to a state where they are the majority. I was curious and asked ChatGPT whether any prominent British Jew had ever said that we have the same right to our own state as they believe they do. It couldn't come up with a single example.
The name of our state is a problem, because it is so long: The United Kingdom Of Great Britain And Northern Ireland. I have never heard anyone describe themselves as a United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Irelander: in practice, we use the term British to describe the political identity. But British can also be used to describe an ethno-cultural identity, as a collective name for the various indigenous peoples. This means that, for example, Badenoch is British if you're talking about political identity, but not if you're talking about ethno-cultural identity.
Can someone be black and British? Clearly yes, if you're talking about political identity. Ethno-cultural identity? As I understand the genetics, someone with 3 English grandparents and one Yoruba grandparent could have the same skin colour as the Yoruba, but it's not very likely.
There is no such thing as a British ethnicity, it’s a 18th century political invention to promote and protect the Union. See Linda Colley’s book Britons: Forging the Nation 1707-1837 .
Pakistani, for example. The word "Pakistan" wasn't even invented until the 1920's. There never was a historic nation, county, district called Pakistan before 1948. It was made up from the words for Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir and Sind.
You will find similar for many of the 100+ nations created in the last 200 years. Every ethnicity had to start somewhere.
Yes, almost certainly am! I think it's very common to confuse the two, which is part of the issue. I hardly care. There's more than a few of my ethnicity that are thoroughly nasty pieces of work and well worth avoiding.
Attacks against Restore were expected as their popularity increased and here we are.
So now the military are ‘upset’ at antisemitism in the party.
From what I’ve heard the Rupert’s are loathe to lose their privilege’s and it’s the NCOs who will move their arses when the time comes.
My sensitive ears have heard a lot about anti Semitic rhetoric - in the Labour Party - it could be why they are so hot on Islamism.
Of course the Tory’s were also attracted to Islam - Qatari money stretches a long way, even to the Greens.
The Lib Dem’s might be missing out - but I doubt it.
Now that Steve Laws, the first target of the globalists has resigned having argued with Orla Minihane, who has also resigned, the target shifts to Charlie.
Rupert doesn’t have to intervene.
A quiet word over tea and hobnobs and bobs your uncle.
It’s the way things used to work in the other parties.
“I don’t expect expect that Restore Britain will give up the ghost immediately. It will probably linger on for a while.”
That works out well for you, Pete, because you’ve been saying that Restore are “finished” every 2 weeks for the last 6 months. It’s useful for your Substack to just write the same article dozens of times for clicks. Who knows, maybe one day your prediction will come true. Just keep saying it over and over and over again. Get some crystals and channel the vibes through it, man.
The party is actually already dead in terms of where it can go and what it can accomplish. The cracks in the foundations are now irrecoverable. The party will linger for a while because its activists will still be operating on the delusion that the party has momentum (you're probably one of them). It's really just a question of how long it takes for the penny to drop - which is anyone's guess. Anyone capable of assessing it objectively knows that its reputation is already smashed.
I guess we’ll see. Either way, I look forward to reading more of your thoughts on this matter when you inevitably publish another article about it in 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 23, 27, 28, 30, 31, 32, 35, 36, 39, 40, 42, 44, 45, 46, 49, 51, 52, 56, 58, and 61 days.
It isn’t about race, it is about culture. I have seen the transformation of the UK, and unfortunately some of the immigrants are a real problem. Not all, but some.
Restore should've stayed as a movement and properly vetted its leadership. I won't be renewing my membership.
👍🏻 I called the Frank Wright problem early. It was tempting but a huge mistake to allow him to become a de facto party spokesman.
The AfD is constantly charged with having a similar kind of "grotbag" problem. Top of voting intention polls, 28%. 🤷🏼♂️
Fascism is popular in Germany? Who knew?
Facetiousness aside, the opposite has been true for the last 60 years, no? Both fascism and "fascism" are ostensibly unpopular in Germany precisely because of WW2. So if a party with a 'grotbag' problem can nonetheless make it in Germany, it could just as well make it in the UK.
AfD is the only party of the right, AFAIK.
CDU is routinely described as conservative and centre-right, and they're the next most popular party. Whether you believe that or not based on their governance is up to you though.
If they are part of the “cordon sanitaire” then they don’t count as democrats in my book.
Any largeish RW party will attract some grotbags, unless there’s a receptacle further to the right. AfD are probably big enough to ignore them. Lowe’s Restore is a useful jam jar for wasps - who knows, Lowe may be part of a cunning plot conceived by mysterious financiers with foreign sounding names?
(((Hermer))) eh? Another die for Israel, war with Russia civnat. Just like Henry Bolton and all the other rats that crawl out of the wood work if ever anyone tries to divert from the mainstream of prescribed political thought.
The Hand of The God who built up England and then Britain to greatness is against you.
Restore was set up by Lowe to damage Farage. He recruited purely on that basis. Any promise of becoming a party that could possibly challenge the establishment was/is a lie. I'm happy to be labelled a spinless coward/wimp for getting behind Farage, Reform UK at least has a good chance of winning a GE and putting the brakes on the woke uniparty madness we've all been forced to endure. Both Restore and Reform claim to be going to the same destination, but on different trains. Reform have become a political juggernaut. Restore are still an old bitter man in his attic who doesn't even write his own social media posts.
There is zero possibility of preventing the indigenous peoples of this archipelago from becoming second- (or even third-) class minorities in the absence of "ethno-nationalist" policies. Those who go along with the "civic-nationalist" (absurd concept) assertion that someone who arrived 20 years ago but has a UK passport and queues rather than pushes-in is just as British as we are is a combination of thick, ignorant and cowardly. But then we discovered during the Covid Tyranny that most of our countrymen are bed-wetting obedient sheep.
It really depends on integration and assimilation. The problem really is the volume and sources of immigration. Immigration should be composed of people who can be assimilated and integrated and that can’t happen if you have the volume and type of immigration we have seen.
So as I concluded a while back the Right will only get its act together once the Left has destroyed the country.
Out of the ashes the phoenix will rise again.
I do hope so. The Left hasn't quite destroyed us yet, but it wont take long. The budget will be, err, interesting!
Pete states: "Ultimately, a party like Restore needed to attract the patriotic officer class. They are an essential component of any serious movement, not least because of their connections, money and experience."
Ain't that the truth. That said, most of the patriotic officer class is nowhere near fully aware of the existential issues we face, nor the time scale to remedy them. Nor, perhaps, the measures necessary to remedy them.
Restore needs numbers. Restore needs the support of every single "right-wing" man and woman in England/Britain. The grotbag" numbers were quite content to support Restore, even if the party was not quite what they wanted it to be. Restore also needs the officer class. This could have happened, but the calamitous mistake has been made re allowing "it's the Jews" to become the talking point rather than: "we don't care about the why's and the how's; we care about the issue in front of our eyes which is Islam and our imminent replacement as a civilisation."
The low-IQ right-wingers don't seem to understand that persuading Middle England about the obvious threat is absolutely possible, whilst persuading them to first recognise the "Jewish problem" is an absolute non-starter.
What a shame. Restore had such promise. A sitting MP, a friendly Elon Musk. A tragedy really, but at least we now know there is no democratic solution.
The big success of the left after WW2 has been to classify the “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP)” as right wing and blame the “right” for the Nazis. If you care to look at the policies of the NSDAP, there is no way that they could be mistaken for conservative views. We are still bending to the far left’s classification and using their language.
I don't think National Socialism really maps neatly onto the left-right axis, as many ideologies don't. It was something else in its own right.
Well it was collectivist and authoritarian. Yes of course it’s never neatly on the left-right spectrum, but in my view it was a lot like socialism and communism in certain aspects. I think the difference might have been ownership of the means of production, but if you look at what happened in practice, the “owners” did not have real control, because the state was overarching. Similar to Mussolini’s fascism. Of course the nasty bits were the extreme ethno-nationalism and the propensity to murder the intellectually and physically handicapped.
Both Melanie Phillips and Daniel Finkelstein have, in recent weeks, denied that the indigenous peoples of this archipelago have any right to a state where they are the majority. I was curious and asked ChatGPT whether any prominent British Jew had ever said that we have the same right to our own state as they believe they do. It couldn't come up with a single example.
Were both these articles by any chance in The Times?
I was very disappointed to see that comment from Melanie Phillips. I agree that she is wrong.
The name of our state is a problem, because it is so long: The United Kingdom Of Great Britain And Northern Ireland. I have never heard anyone describe themselves as a United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Irelander: in practice, we use the term British to describe the political identity. But British can also be used to describe an ethno-cultural identity, as a collective name for the various indigenous peoples. This means that, for example, Badenoch is British if you're talking about political identity, but not if you're talking about ethno-cultural identity.
Can someone be black and British? Clearly yes, if you're talking about political identity. Ethno-cultural identity? As I understand the genetics, someone with 3 English grandparents and one Yoruba grandparent could have the same skin colour as the Yoruba, but it's not very likely.
There is no such thing as a British ethnicity, it’s a 18th century political invention to promote and protect the Union. See Linda Colley’s book Britons: Forging the Nation 1707-1837 .
That's not unique to Britain.
Pakistani, for example. The word "Pakistan" wasn't even invented until the 1920's. There never was a historic nation, county, district called Pakistan before 1948. It was made up from the words for Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir and Sind.
You will find similar for many of the 100+ nations created in the last 200 years. Every ethnicity had to start somewhere.
I think you are confusing nation with ethnicity. Pakistan was an exclusive Muslim project.
Yes, almost certainly am! I think it's very common to confuse the two, which is part of the issue. I hardly care. There's more than a few of my ethnicity that are thoroughly nasty pieces of work and well worth avoiding.
Attacks against Restore were expected as their popularity increased and here we are.
So now the military are ‘upset’ at antisemitism in the party.
From what I’ve heard the Rupert’s are loathe to lose their privilege’s and it’s the NCOs who will move their arses when the time comes.
My sensitive ears have heard a lot about anti Semitic rhetoric - in the Labour Party - it could be why they are so hot on Islamism.
Of course the Tory’s were also attracted to Islam - Qatari money stretches a long way, even to the Greens.
The Lib Dem’s might be missing out - but I doubt it.
Now that Steve Laws, the first target of the globalists has resigned having argued with Orla Minihane, who has also resigned, the target shifts to Charlie.
Rupert doesn’t have to intervene.
A quiet word over tea and hobnobs and bobs your uncle.
It’s the way things used to work in the other parties.
“I don’t expect expect that Restore Britain will give up the ghost immediately. It will probably linger on for a while.”
That works out well for you, Pete, because you’ve been saying that Restore are “finished” every 2 weeks for the last 6 months. It’s useful for your Substack to just write the same article dozens of times for clicks. Who knows, maybe one day your prediction will come true. Just keep saying it over and over and over again. Get some crystals and channel the vibes through it, man.
You are such a hack.
The party is actually already dead in terms of where it can go and what it can accomplish. The cracks in the foundations are now irrecoverable. The party will linger for a while because its activists will still be operating on the delusion that the party has momentum (you're probably one of them). It's really just a question of how long it takes for the penny to drop - which is anyone's guess. Anyone capable of assessing it objectively knows that its reputation is already smashed.
I guess we’ll see. Either way, I look forward to reading more of your thoughts on this matter when you inevitably publish another article about it in 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 23, 27, 28, 30, 31, 32, 35, 36, 39, 40, 42, 44, 45, 46, 49, 51, 52, 56, 58, and 61 days.
"I’m calling it now. Restore Britain is over as a party." "Rejoice at that news! " (Maggie Thatcher April 25th 1982)
Restore the party of racists has been hijacked by racists. So if I get this right the new racists weren’t cut from the same cloth as the old racists.
It isn’t about race, it is about culture. I have seen the transformation of the UK, and unfortunately some of the immigrants are a real problem. Not all, but some.
There are always useful idiots
Reform and Restore are all about race but try and portray themselves as patriotic.
So what race is Zia Yusuf
He’s just a useful idiot
Restore was always a movement/party for loyal men and women not for spineless cowards and wimps.
Loyal to Satan at and near the top.
So they will end up in the pit of sulphur in Revelation 20 verse 10.
Loyal to England and Great Britain which the God of The Bible built up to greatness, no not loyal to Him nor to Britain.
Too ignorant to educate the Restore people who were seduced by evil spirits and their doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4 verses 1 to 3).
Find out the hard way. Off you pop!