Farage has only had 30 years to develop well thought through policies but his style will always be back of a cigarette packet coupled with off the cuff populist slop.
If anyone thinks Farage is the answer they are asking the wrong question.
This isn't about producing a policy but a document from which Reform can appear on TV with some sound bites. Politics is just sound bites these days, it seems.
This is an unusually poor article. More holes than a Swiss cheese and full of hand-wringing “nothing can be done” and “it’s too difficult”. I knew that EU citizens formed the majority of benefit claimants but didn’t realise there were over 600000 of them - some 20X more than British citizens claiming benefits in the EU. Unacceptable and costing us around £15bn pa. Well worth reopening the TCA for.
It's a lightweight document designed to sound good in soft interviews on Reform media outlets like GB News, the Daily Telegraph and all the lickspittle client journalists they've got on their payroll.
I know a friend born in the EU who has settled status. She has been a higher are taxpayer for over ten years. While she does not claim any benefits should she not qualify for benefits if her circumstances change? She has made above average contributions for a decade.
Violation of the general principle that law should not be retrospective is unfair. Are Reform saying no benefits only for new settled status applicants or for all no matter how long their contributions to society and the treasury? If the latter then they lose my vote.
“Those with EU settled status account for 58% of foreign welfare claimants. Reform will ban them from Britain's welfare state”.
Can this be true? I don't think there was ever a year when EU immigration exceeded non-EU immigration. OK, EU immigrants included the Roma, who are effectively Third Worlders, but even so...
And things will obviously change when the Boriswave become entitled to benefits.
Regarding changing welfare. Universal credit, I hot trainingnin about 2007? Everyone with ESA is only just been ported overstock UC November 2025. So approx, 18 years to completely getcrid of the old systems abd have one system and small people still missed the deadline.
Also, DWP for PIP is a dinosaur system, xaskvthe operators. You can request a copy of your UC entitlement online, no fuss, turns in about a week.
Forxa copy of PIP approx, 1 and half hrs on phone for 3 mins request, states about 2-4 weeks.
Do MPs realise that every single government department has to buy a licence for each computer, install firewalls, updates and pay to update the windows sytems used. Its costs a fortune.
So,buf you want a different system to PIP/ DLA- kids version and want to change the operating system for UC, have they factored the costs. Plus tge training?
I agree benefits need to change and my kids on on PIP due to genetic heart conditions and learning disabilities.
How many migrants have been helped to claim benefits for PTSD for being in a war or trauma? Think if the possiblity of the numbers.
Reduced migration, should have some sort of snowball effect, if benefits go.
Does anyone remember YTS scheme? Youth employment. I loved mine,you went on from 16, to get placemehts and trainng, like a try before you buy and moved around. You had to do it, or get no money.
I got great stuff my CV and jobs later with the training.
While I am inclined to agree with you about the welfare for work policy, getting benefits claimants to do some work is unlikely to survive contact with reality, we do routinely give criminals community service do do. And offenders are likely do be harder to deal with than out of work people (or I would assume so).
How does that work? Does anyone have experience with it?
Is it all for show, or do they actually get useful work out of people?
It may be for show, but it's the principal. You can't sit on your arse watching TV and get paid for it.
The Westminster bubble and the twittering classes will hate what Reform are saying.
On the street I'm not so sure, I just hear people pissed off with being taxed or restricted at every turn and others getting away with it. They see that many are gaming the system and it's only their sense of fair play that is stopping them from doing it.
Reform and Restore are both shifting the Overton window, which does provide the Tories with an opportunity if they can very publicly remove the Liberals from their party.
Thanks. I did think of a 50/50 programme where long term unemployed people are placed into private companies for a year in exchange for a minimum wage guarantee and proper training.
That's the kind of outside the box thinking we need IMO.
Farage has only had 30 years to develop well thought through policies but his style will always be back of a cigarette packet coupled with off the cuff populist slop.
If anyone thinks Farage is the answer they are asking the wrong question.
This isn't about producing a policy but a document from which Reform can appear on TV with some sound bites. Politics is just sound bites these days, it seems.
How can a defence be made for treating foreigners, better than homeless Brits?
Under human rights laws I would expect British people to be treated at least as well as foreign born UK inhabitants.
Why would the ECHR prioritise migrants over the British people?
Why hasn’t the British Government challenged the ECHR for treating migrants better than Brits?
Why hasn’t the British government been sued under Human Rights legislation for treating its own people as lesser people than migrants?
Halting benefits to migrants is a fine aim, but we need help for homeless Brits right now, particularly ex forces personnel.
This is an unusually poor article. More holes than a Swiss cheese and full of hand-wringing “nothing can be done” and “it’s too difficult”. I knew that EU citizens formed the majority of benefit claimants but didn’t realise there were over 600000 of them - some 20X more than British citizens claiming benefits in the EU. Unacceptable and costing us around £15bn pa. Well worth reopening the TCA for.
It's a lightweight document designed to sound good in soft interviews on Reform media outlets like GB News, the Daily Telegraph and all the lickspittle client journalists they've got on their payroll.
I know a friend born in the EU who has settled status. She has been a higher are taxpayer for over ten years. While she does not claim any benefits should she not qualify for benefits if her circumstances change? She has made above average contributions for a decade.
Violation of the general principle that law should not be retrospective is unfair. Are Reform saying no benefits only for new settled status applicants or for all no matter how long their contributions to society and the treasury? If the latter then they lose my vote.
“Those with EU settled status account for 58% of foreign welfare claimants. Reform will ban them from Britain's welfare state”.
Can this be true? I don't think there was ever a year when EU immigration exceeded non-EU immigration. OK, EU immigrants included the Roma, who are effectively Third Worlders, but even so...
And things will obviously change when the Boriswave become entitled to benefits.
Regarding changing welfare. Universal credit, I hot trainingnin about 2007? Everyone with ESA is only just been ported overstock UC November 2025. So approx, 18 years to completely getcrid of the old systems abd have one system and small people still missed the deadline.
Also, DWP for PIP is a dinosaur system, xaskvthe operators. You can request a copy of your UC entitlement online, no fuss, turns in about a week.
Forxa copy of PIP approx, 1 and half hrs on phone for 3 mins request, states about 2-4 weeks.
Do MPs realise that every single government department has to buy a licence for each computer, install firewalls, updates and pay to update the windows sytems used. Its costs a fortune.
So,buf you want a different system to PIP/ DLA- kids version and want to change the operating system for UC, have they factored the costs. Plus tge training?
I agree benefits need to change and my kids on on PIP due to genetic heart conditions and learning disabilities.
How many migrants have been helped to claim benefits for PTSD for being in a war or trauma? Think if the possiblity of the numbers.
Reduced migration, should have some sort of snowball effect, if benefits go.
Does anyone remember YTS scheme? Youth employment. I loved mine,you went on from 16, to get placemehts and trainng, like a try before you buy and moved around. You had to do it, or get no money.
I got great stuff my CV and jobs later with the training.
But g'mnt computers do come with Shpell Chequers!
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While I am inclined to agree with you about the welfare for work policy, getting benefits claimants to do some work is unlikely to survive contact with reality, we do routinely give criminals community service do do. And offenders are likely do be harder to deal with than out of work people (or I would assume so).
How does that work? Does anyone have experience with it?
Is it all for show, or do they actually get useful work out of people?
It may be for show, but it's the principal. You can't sit on your arse watching TV and get paid for it.
The Westminster bubble and the twittering classes will hate what Reform are saying.
On the street I'm not so sure, I just hear people pissed off with being taxed or restricted at every turn and others getting away with it. They see that many are gaming the system and it's only their sense of fair play that is stopping them from doing it.
Reform and Restore are both shifting the Overton window, which does provide the Tories with an opportunity if they can very publicly remove the Liberals from their party.
They'd need to start with Badenoch for me...
Criminals are being punished. Should we bring workhouses back?
Thanks. I did think of a 50/50 programme where long term unemployed people are placed into private companies for a year in exchange for a minimum wage guarantee and proper training.
That's the kind of outside the box thinking we need IMO.
No company in their right mind would take them. These people are long term unemployed for a reason.