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Tom Rogers's avatar

However, this is not new. People have raised similar points in various quarters and in different ways for years and been ignored. The Right is a leaders/cult type of environment.

Equally, there are practical obstacles. Institutions and organisations can be infiltrated, attacked, subverted, and even officially shutdown.

The Right lacks social capital. For a while it became a trope to say that Right-leaning people should address this by starting businesses and voluntary groups and what not and build out of this a sort of parallel society, but the problem with it is that the Left has become an all-encompassing orthodoxy. If you start a business, you have to comply with equality legislation. There are practical ways round it, true, but the Left have built a mandatory ideological world that surrounds us and is not optional.

Maybe more use could be made of distributed educational and training methods. People can now go online and learn things and share information and this circumvents the problems of institutions and organisations, but the drawback of all that is that the virtual world takes you away from the real world and becomes a world in itself that has no purchase in reality. Online activity should be a tool for activity in the real world, not an end in itself.

I've scanned through Donna Rachel's 'Recommendations'. To implement many of those ideas and get them off the ground, it would require people who are detached from the Right and can present a respectable, inoffensive front. The Right (or more precisely, conservatism) used to have a panoply of voluntary and professional institutions for this purpose that formed part of the national and civic fabric of British society - the Right's philosophical world was British society itself. Now that world has been taken over by the Left and repurposed.

I suppose the point I am arriving at is this:

We lost. We just have to accept it and live with the consequences, as do the people who 'won'. They have to face the consequences too, especially if they are white but even if they aren't, and they should receive no sympathy.

Niall Warry's avatar

It is certainly true that the 'Left's' thinking has influenced all politics, with the Overton Window now way to the left of where it was 50 years ago.

Its tentacles have spread far and wide into Law and Order, education, charities, museums, National Trust, business, entertainment and even regrettably our armed forces.

The tragedy is that I'm convinced there are more of us than them but we are far too busy struggling on with life making ends meet and have always lacked the dedication necessary to form a collective body to fight back.

The fight back will come but it will be violent and then if we are to keep the 'Left' in its place we will need to fight for these reforms which would give the silent majority real power turning our politicians into our servants instead of our masters.

https://harrogateagenda.org.uk/

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J C's avatar

Absolutely correct. As much as I wish it was a slam dunk win for the right, we're just nowhere near where we need to be.

The leftists have been 'Marching through the institutions' for decades, over six decades. It is naïve hope to assume they can just be claimed and taken over.

It will take a long march back. And it won't be easy.

The 'System' is entrenched and has no desire to give up its power just because we don't like it. The establishment have been feathering their nests at our expense (socially and financially) for years and are not going to walk away because we may win a vote.

I liken it to those old fantasy films/games where the noble warrior, intent on bringing peace to the land, enters the evil lords kingdom to find the fields and roads littered with the rusting armour and corpses of those who tried to do the same, but just didn't know what they were really up against.

Reform/Restore can just as easily become a decaying corpse of rusted armour as a warning to the rest of us.

Fiona walker's avatar

Rupert Lowe has a piece in today’s Telegraph. Deporting entire communities, plus anyone who doesn’t speak English, capital punishment (Stefan Cisko anyone? Lucy Letby?), usual. No nuance or description of how the judiciary could be circumvented, and if other countries refused our deportees. The frothers in the comments told me to go read Restore’s many and detailed policy papers. Yeah, right. I might, but the average voter will not.

Overhead At Docksat's avatar

Nothing wrong with a starting point. What is needed is an action plan to refine it. However publishing reams of reams of detailed policy is just like reams and reams of requirements documents in engineering. Completely superfluous and just bogs us down in bureaucracy.

There should be a referendum on capital punishment. The last time it was legal, juries were still very reluctant to use it. There already are checks in society. Or would be if we were more homogenous.

Tom Rogers's avatar

The problem is that his "starting point" is a declaration of civil war. Not saying I disagree with him in principle, but when you announce that you intend to deport whole communities of people you are declaring civil war. There is no two ways about that. How do you implement it? I am not saying the Left are any better. Every time they and their replicators slander white men or whatever, they too are declaring civil war.

Words do matter. I think the point of this blog is to ask that we weigh our words and come up with ideas that can actually be realistically implemented while edging us closer to where we want to be. Does not preclude radicalism, only that we know what we are doing. Does Rupert Lowe really know what he is doing when he says or writes the words attributed to him?

Overhead At Docksat's avatar

Pakistan deported thousands of Afghanis recently. There didn’t seem to be a civil war

Tom Rogers's avatar

Point taken, and just to be clear, I am not saying mass deportation is impractical in principle. Again, for emphasis: I do not disagree with Mr Lowe in principle. But this isn't Pakistan and the relevant point is made in the very blog post above.

It can be done. I don't go as far as Pete North in looking for detailed reasons why something could not work. Things can be made to work. Recent history proves that. Population transfers have happened in history and been made to work.

But I maintain my point that to announce it is, in effect, to declare civil war, and if you're going to do that, you'd better be prepared.

Fiona walker's avatar

They aren’t a democracy and don’t follow the rules.

J C's avatar

We definitely need the discussion.

mikebravo's avatar

The problem as I see it is that the 'right' are generally individual in their outlook and desires while the left are 'the hive'.

Herding cats really is impossible.

You only really get right wing government after a military coup.