The lack of knowledge of Hamas from the Police is both a blessing and a curse. It shows that they have no idea how many hundreds of thousands,even millions share your views. The Overton Window is breaking the sound barrier as a result,and so things will change.
Today Keir Starmer is admitting that European parties of the Left got things wrong on immigration. I hear echoes of 1980s Communist leaders admitting they got economics wrong under Communism.
The news of your arrest was out last night,so don't worry about disappearing. It made a lot kf people angry.
Lord Scotum’s comment I agree with. They will say ‘Never heard of Hamas. What is it?’ To get you talking about it. Hoping you will say something ‘hateful’. Although anyone could not hate Hamas is beyond me.
Pete I'm shocked and scared reading this - being arrested for a tweet, unless it's an obvious incitement to violence or worse, is a frightening development.
We have state-approved protestors out on the streets using 'Palestine' as a lightning rod for something else. Your go at explaining the nature of that 'something else' is as good as anybody's, I've had a bit of drama with the HR department recently but this has made me realise I was worrying about very little. Not nothing, but very little.
Genuinely a lot of us will be worrying about you fella, and hoping this backfires horribly on the people who put you through it. I know you wanted to get out of there but...if it goes further then get yourself a solicitor. You'll be needing one.
You know where I am if you need anything mate, take care.
On the same day starmer anounces ID cards you get dragged off for a tweet, this country has embarked on a dangerous path. This shouldn't be happening to you or any of us.
Pete, as you say spicy Tweets are spicy tweets - but your arrest and "perpetrator walk" is but part of the process.
Without extrapolating too far, maybe your potential day in Court ( if it comes to that) will highlight to a very wide audience the perversity of what has happend to you and is happening to countless others.
Really hope things settle down a bit - this matrix like state we are moving to indicates there are tragically going to be more "Mr Andersen" moments.
As was shouted to Ken Dodd as he was walking to a Liverpool Court for suspected tax evasion ( unproved) " don't let the bu**ers get you down.." - please shout if you decide to start a go-fund-me-defence pot - this behaviour by the state has to be fully exposed fought tooth and nail.
Pete, take care of yourself for a few days. I am sure you already are a member but Free Speech Union might be able to help. If I were you I would make it clear now that if you aren’t charged by the CPS then you will be taking legal action. As you say the process is the punishment and that works both ways. I would also do a Subject Access request for all information from the police and CPS. If evidence exists that the police knew this did not meet the charging threshold then it opens up lots of avenues for legal action against plod.
I'd note this is an interview technique you should be wary of in future: "In the interview, to my shock and disgust, I had to explain to the interviewing plod what Hamas is. He was completely oblivious. He appeared to not know what happened on 7/10."
It's not necessarily that the officer is oblivious or clueless of the matter, he's inviting you to speak and explain. This can often lead to self-incrimination.
Wait to see if the cps charges? How can the cps charge when there is no crime?
As for "tweeting about race"... no reason should be needed to "tweet about race". Race is simply a thing that exists. Can we not talk about something that exists?
This is utter madness, at best, but clearly a symptom of something more sinister.
It is not only that - it is a cultural, quasi-religion which includes totalitarian politics and is all about violently gaining control and suppression of dissent. In no way, shape or form is it a “religion of peace” as their adherents claim…
Quite understandably that was a shock to your system but your fight is our fight and I will support you as best I can.
The whole affair is like something out of the Stasi playbook in East Germany and the image that sticks in my mind is the policeman putting on the blue rubber gloves ............................it is simply beyond belief but then so much in Starmer's Britain is.
Each day take some deep breaths and get out in the fresh air for a walk and take your time to think this through and plan the best way forward.
1) Get a solicitor and don't talk to the police without one. Certainly never answer questions on Tommy Robinson, there is no good answer to them and they are fishing for "bad" answers
2) Don't let the police in to your house. Tell them to go away and come back in the morning if they want to talk to you, you are zero flight risk and you won't be admitting them. If they want to force their way in that could well be a problem for them later
3) Sue them. The auditors tend to use HNK (I think) solicitors.
In that benighted country, Armed Police everywhere looking for people who say things they do not like. Gangs roaming the streets (armed too). Very dangerous place to be in indeed. And the (broke) government just stopping any kind of oil and any kind of prosperity. And yes, they have been through mass emigration and mass starvation too.
Dear Pete, your father knows me on the phone and email since I believe 2004 (when I first heard him on Charlie Wolf show on Talk Sport radio). I have made a few calls to the Telegraph today and asked Ben Habib, whom I know you met, to add his voice. He emailed back he was tweeting support. In the village prayer group tomorrow we will be expressly praying for your family and that as in the Book of Esther (takes 30 minutes to read) that God turns the tables on the powers of evil coming against you. God bless you, Jonathan
All the best to you.
The lack of knowledge of Hamas from the Police is both a blessing and a curse. It shows that they have no idea how many hundreds of thousands,even millions share your views. The Overton Window is breaking the sound barrier as a result,and so things will change.
Today Keir Starmer is admitting that European parties of the Left got things wrong on immigration. I hear echoes of 1980s Communist leaders admitting they got economics wrong under Communism.
The news of your arrest was out last night,so don't worry about disappearing. It made a lot kf people angry.
Lord Scotum’s comment I agree with. They will say ‘Never heard of Hamas. What is it?’ To get you talking about it. Hoping you will say something ‘hateful’. Although anyone could not hate Hamas is beyond me.
Pete I'm shocked and scared reading this - being arrested for a tweet, unless it's an obvious incitement to violence or worse, is a frightening development.
We have state-approved protestors out on the streets using 'Palestine' as a lightning rod for something else. Your go at explaining the nature of that 'something else' is as good as anybody's, I've had a bit of drama with the HR department recently but this has made me realise I was worrying about very little. Not nothing, but very little.
Genuinely a lot of us will be worrying about you fella, and hoping this backfires horribly on the people who put you through it. I know you wanted to get out of there but...if it goes further then get yourself a solicitor. You'll be needing one.
You know where I am if you need anything mate, take care.
Good luck, Pete. There will be countless people who will support you if needed, so don’t be afraid to ask.
On the same day starmer anounces ID cards you get dragged off for a tweet, this country has embarked on a dangerous path. This shouldn't be happening to you or any of us.
Very orwellian and totalitarian. Straight out of the USSR. Keir Stalin without that much irony.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194 Do not accept more state control
Pete, as you say spicy Tweets are spicy tweets - but your arrest and "perpetrator walk" is but part of the process.
Without extrapolating too far, maybe your potential day in Court ( if it comes to that) will highlight to a very wide audience the perversity of what has happend to you and is happening to countless others.
Really hope things settle down a bit - this matrix like state we are moving to indicates there are tragically going to be more "Mr Andersen" moments.
As was shouted to Ken Dodd as he was walking to a Liverpool Court for suspected tax evasion ( unproved) " don't let the bu**ers get you down.." - please shout if you decide to start a go-fund-me-defence pot - this behaviour by the state has to be fully exposed fought tooth and nail.
Pete, take care of yourself for a few days. I am sure you already are a member but Free Speech Union might be able to help. If I were you I would make it clear now that if you aren’t charged by the CPS then you will be taking legal action. As you say the process is the punishment and that works both ways. I would also do a Subject Access request for all information from the police and CPS. If evidence exists that the police knew this did not meet the charging threshold then it opens up lots of avenues for legal action against plod.
Good point on the SAR. Pete needs to action this today with the Police, Home Office and DoJ. £2 each.
This is outrageous. Hope you are okay.
Pete, stay strong.
I have written an article on your arrest, and include a link to your aricle.
I have asked my readers to share and re-stack.
This is extremely serious. I have subscribers in the USA and elsewhere, they need to see what is happening in the UK.
UK: man arrested for posting a "Fuck Hamas" meme
Free speech is largely dead in the UK now.
https://hellish2050.substack.com/p/uk-man-arrested-for-posting-a-fuck
Stay well, Pete.
It does seem that the (seemingly illegitimate) process was the punishment. I've no doubt you'll make them pay handsomely.
Illegitimi non carborundum!
Stay strong Pete. As you say the process is the punishment. We may all experience this at some time in seems.
I'd note this is an interview technique you should be wary of in future: "In the interview, to my shock and disgust, I had to explain to the interviewing plod what Hamas is. He was completely oblivious. He appeared to not know what happened on 7/10."
It's not necessarily that the officer is oblivious or clueless of the matter, he's inviting you to speak and explain. This can often lead to self-incrimination.
Outrageous.
Wait to see if the cps charges? How can the cps charge when there is no crime?
As for "tweeting about race"... no reason should be needed to "tweet about race". Race is simply a thing that exists. Can we not talk about something that exists?
This is utter madness, at best, but clearly a symptom of something more sinister.
Doesn't matter, they will keep it hanging over your head for a year or more in the hope you won't sue afterwards because you just want it over with.
Islam isn't a race either, it's a political religion.
It is not only that - it is a cultural, quasi-religion which includes totalitarian politics and is all about violently gaining control and suppression of dissent. In no way, shape or form is it a “religion of peace” as their adherents claim…
Quite understandably that was a shock to your system but your fight is our fight and I will support you as best I can.
The whole affair is like something out of the Stasi playbook in East Germany and the image that sticks in my mind is the policeman putting on the blue rubber gloves ............................it is simply beyond belief but then so much in Starmer's Britain is.
Each day take some deep breaths and get out in the fresh air for a walk and take your time to think this through and plan the best way forward.
1) Get a solicitor and don't talk to the police without one. Certainly never answer questions on Tommy Robinson, there is no good answer to them and they are fishing for "bad" answers
2) Don't let the police in to your house. Tell them to go away and come back in the morning if they want to talk to you, you are zero flight risk and you won't be admitting them. If they want to force their way in that could well be a problem for them later
3) Sue them. The auditors tend to use HNK (I think) solicitors.
Venezuela here we come!
In that benighted country, Armed Police everywhere looking for people who say things they do not like. Gangs roaming the streets (armed too). Very dangerous place to be in indeed. And the (broke) government just stopping any kind of oil and any kind of prosperity. And yes, they have been through mass emigration and mass starvation too.
Venezuela here we come!
Dear Pete, your father knows me on the phone and email since I believe 2004 (when I first heard him on Charlie Wolf show on Talk Sport radio). I have made a few calls to the Telegraph today and asked Ben Habib, whom I know you met, to add his voice. He emailed back he was tweeting support. In the village prayer group tomorrow we will be expressly praying for your family and that as in the Book of Esther (takes 30 minutes to read) that God turns the tables on the powers of evil coming against you. God bless you, Jonathan