Another one bites the dust, but never mind, the next one will be just as bad. The last 25 years has shown it already, the UK is a basket case and nothing is going to save it until people finally realise that you cannot pay millions of other people something for doing nothing.
Mad Ed Miliband the bookies short odds favourite for next PM. Then a scorched earth policy to stop any further N Sea oil drilling and fracking anywhere. God help us if that communist takes power. He’s probably a Russian sleeper like his Dad was alleged to be.
As it appears that we are not going to get more oil or gas out of the North Sea, with no doubt ever- increasing energy prices, it will be irrelevant who is in charge, as we become more and more broke.
'Relinquish power to people who will do what the electorate wants'. But said people don’t exist. All parties are there to obstruct the public will. All parties are puppets to the globalist agenda. Which marches on quite nicely.
Isn’t there a back room in Reform HQ where sensible people are planning for a future restoration of basic fiscal and social standards? Can we hope it’s there and that Nigel and co have a sense that they will be on the bridge of the last chance boat currently heading to the Third World? Can we hope, even a teeny delusional bit?
In many ways Labour are in a worse state than any other political party. They have two parts of their core ethos: The Fabian Way or the Keir Hardie Up The Workers Way. They've been going down the Fabian path since 1983 and Up The Workers was a proven failure and will fail again with its central tenet being throw money at unions to make them go away. To become a patriotic party of paternalism and benevolent socialism as Eric Hobsbawm wanted or to continue down the Fabian identity politics, blank state, unpatriotic path? Neither works.
Reform don't have a core ethos to refer to. They're core tenets being "Be Resentful", "Repeat the Slogans" and "1001 Internet Insults to Hurl At Anyone Who Isn't In Reform". Resentment is a short lived fuel and we're already seeing newly elected Reform councillors falling by the wayside whilst Zia Yusuf and the equally repellent Rael Braverman keep hurling lies and insults.
The Greens also have split loyalties but they can trade on outsider status for now. At some point the airheads and the Islamists are going to clash and there's only going to be one winner and it won't be the scrawny purple haired Tamaras.
The LibDems continue to baffle as to why they exist and as for the Tories, they're still on probation with me. They've got the coherent core ethos, if they choose to refer to it. They pretty much ignored it for 20 years but a heavy defeat can be a teacher. At the moment every time they say or do something properly conservative, they get a little reward. A long way to go but the signs are they are finally learning...but they've got to keep the annoying Prosper group of wets well away. We shall see.
I can see what you're saying about the Tories but I don't think they're actually a party, any more, merely the zombified remains of one. There is no way back for them & anyway, even if they should return from beyond the grave, they will stab themselves to death, again, at the first opportunity. Being in government would stress their faultlines until they unwind into chaos.
The British ruling elite, of whichever stripe, have lost the ability to lead.
And yet they're still there, not destroyed, still a presence. And when the rage anfmd resentment dies down and the grifters turn on each other it'll still be there.
"so all it can do is tread water until it drowns. There are no lifelines here. The struggling swimmer is cramping up and nobody even wants to save them."
As to Reform UK I totally agree the best we can hope for from them is to act as a wrecking ball on the uni-party until something much much better evolves and as I've said many times before that will hopefully come at the election after the next.
LibLabCon was a low resolution way of not perceiving the differences. I'm not saying there weren't forces in those three parties (and externally) looking for continual consensus but the rifts between the three parties were definitely there.
The way Reform talk they want all other parties gone.
Other than a military coup, civil war or a dictatorship I'm not altogether sure anything else will show up. Where are our Margaret Thatchers? Where are the leaders with conviction, who believe in themselves and can corral and manage similar elected representatives? Is the age of democracy and leadership dead? I think it might be.
I think this Labour government, installed in a landslide but crippled & sinking within a year, pressages the end of Britain as a nation that functions as a liberal democracy. I can see Reform getting the required number of seats to form a government but being entirely incapable of delivering what the nation requires, their government will, ironically, be the one which faces the pent-up rage of a population which has faced nothing but undisguised abuse from at least the last two governments.
There is some hope of limping along as a parliamentary democracy if the first-past-the-post voting system is discarded but British political parties are strangers to multi-party coalitions & unlikely to be able to make them work. All across Europe, variations on this theme proliferate. Where do you go when you reach the end of the road?
So when will 81 Labour MPs put their names against a challenger and will the majority of Labour members vote for them because Starmer has absolutely no intention of leaving and the NEC can't force the issue.
Another one bites the dust, but never mind, the next one will be just as bad. The last 25 years has shown it already, the UK is a basket case and nothing is going to save it until people finally realise that you cannot pay millions of other people something for doing nothing.
Nor can you immigrate your way out of trouble, but if you import thousands of muslims you can sure immigrate your way into it.
Mad Ed Miliband the bookies short odds favourite for next PM. Then a scorched earth policy to stop any further N Sea oil drilling and fracking anywhere. God help us if that communist takes power. He’s probably a Russian sleeper like his Dad was alleged to be.
As it appears that we are not going to get more oil or gas out of the North Sea, with no doubt ever- increasing energy prices, it will be irrelevant who is in charge, as we become more and more broke.
Harsh
Bleak
True
'Relinquish power to people who will do what the electorate wants'. But said people don’t exist. All parties are there to obstruct the public will. All parties are puppets to the globalist agenda. Which marches on quite nicely.
Isn’t there a back room in Reform HQ where sensible people are planning for a future restoration of basic fiscal and social standards? Can we hope it’s there and that Nigel and co have a sense that they will be on the bridge of the last chance boat currently heading to the Third World? Can we hope, even a teeny delusional bit?
In many ways Labour are in a worse state than any other political party. They have two parts of their core ethos: The Fabian Way or the Keir Hardie Up The Workers Way. They've been going down the Fabian path since 1983 and Up The Workers was a proven failure and will fail again with its central tenet being throw money at unions to make them go away. To become a patriotic party of paternalism and benevolent socialism as Eric Hobsbawm wanted or to continue down the Fabian identity politics, blank state, unpatriotic path? Neither works.
Reform don't have a core ethos to refer to. They're core tenets being "Be Resentful", "Repeat the Slogans" and "1001 Internet Insults to Hurl At Anyone Who Isn't In Reform". Resentment is a short lived fuel and we're already seeing newly elected Reform councillors falling by the wayside whilst Zia Yusuf and the equally repellent Rael Braverman keep hurling lies and insults.
The Greens also have split loyalties but they can trade on outsider status for now. At some point the airheads and the Islamists are going to clash and there's only going to be one winner and it won't be the scrawny purple haired Tamaras.
The LibDems continue to baffle as to why they exist and as for the Tories, they're still on probation with me. They've got the coherent core ethos, if they choose to refer to it. They pretty much ignored it for 20 years but a heavy defeat can be a teacher. At the moment every time they say or do something properly conservative, they get a little reward. A long way to go but the signs are they are finally learning...but they've got to keep the annoying Prosper group of wets well away. We shall see.
I can see what you're saying about the Tories but I don't think they're actually a party, any more, merely the zombified remains of one. There is no way back for them & anyway, even if they should return from beyond the grave, they will stab themselves to death, again, at the first opportunity. Being in government would stress their faultlines until they unwind into chaos.
The British ruling elite, of whichever stripe, have lost the ability to lead.
And yet they're still there, not destroyed, still a presence. And when the rage anfmd resentment dies down and the grifters turn on each other it'll still be there.
This sums up Labour nicely:-
"so all it can do is tread water until it drowns. There are no lifelines here. The struggling swimmer is cramping up and nobody even wants to save them."
As to Reform UK I totally agree the best we can hope for from them is to act as a wrecking ball on the uni-party until something much much better evolves and as I've said many times before that will hopefully come at the election after the next.
The problem is Reform ARE the uniparty. All within Reform, none outside Reform, none against Reform.
Not really to the same level as the old LibLabCon as was!
LibLabCon was a low resolution way of not perceiving the differences. I'm not saying there weren't forces in those three parties (and externally) looking for continual consensus but the rifts between the three parties were definitely there.
The way Reform talk they want all other parties gone.
Other than a military coup, civil war or a dictatorship I'm not altogether sure anything else will show up. Where are our Margaret Thatchers? Where are the leaders with conviction, who believe in themselves and can corral and manage similar elected representatives? Is the age of democracy and leadership dead? I think it might be.
FYI Quite impressive from Kemi IMHO
https://youtu.be/oMb55a7yEo4
My money is on...the Tories.
Cue crashing, wailing and gnashing.
One could argue that the biggest impediments have left the party... remind me what Jenrick, Braverman, Zahawi, Kruger etc actually brought to the gig?
At least Badenoch was pivotal in a major win against Sturgeon re S20 halt to Sturgeon's crazy gender self ID law.
Katie Lam and Nick Timothy have a lot about them. Many of the others like Philip were only tangentially involved in the debacles of 2019-24.
And I've heard so much about the sheer incompetence of Reform councillors in my local area.
Badenoch's performance at the Kings Speech reply for me is a bit of a turning point.
And Farage's financial dealings at every subsequent turn get closer and closer fir comfort.
Yes, I'm turning back to the Tory Party...but probably need my head examining.
I think this Labour government, installed in a landslide but crippled & sinking within a year, pressages the end of Britain as a nation that functions as a liberal democracy. I can see Reform getting the required number of seats to form a government but being entirely incapable of delivering what the nation requires, their government will, ironically, be the one which faces the pent-up rage of a population which has faced nothing but undisguised abuse from at least the last two governments.
There is some hope of limping along as a parliamentary democracy if the first-past-the-post voting system is discarded but British political parties are strangers to multi-party coalitions & unlikely to be able to make them work. All across Europe, variations on this theme proliferate. Where do you go when you reach the end of the road?
So when will 81 Labour MPs put their names against a challenger and will the majority of Labour members vote for them because Starmer has absolutely no intention of leaving and the NEC can't force the issue.