It's one half terrorist organisation, one half Mafia protection racket. "Nice newspaper you have here....shame if you were to be labelled extremist and far right. That could cause considerable damage to your profits. Whoops, clumsy me, I've just smeared one of your journalists as fascist. You'll have to sack him now." I have it on good authority that they use bullying and coercion to force businesses to toe their line and get money out of them. You know the tactic: Tell them to endorse HnH, if they refuse then organise mass boycotts, direct action and threaten senior staff.
I've been saying for years that HnH should be the subject of a thorough investigation. Charlotte Gill has done some work in this regard but the full, thorough trawl through who they are, who runs it, who funds it....it's got two wings so they can exploit the charity status whilst bending the rules on funding...and how much foreign interference is influencing them?
I remember when you got a hit piece done on you on their main website....they screen grabbed something you said on X and they also screen grabbed my reply! So for a brief moment I was in their crosshairs and got dogpiled by their attack hamsters.
If it were designated as a terrorist organisation imagine the skeletons coming out of the closet: Police, civil servants, MPs....all in collusion. I would welcome the career bloodbath.
Just echoing what Nick has said - and I remember what happened to you not very long ago.
I had a good look at HNH and had to smile when Pete managed to make their pages (but then again so did Rishi Sunak, which is laughable).
Next year get ready for FAR RIGHT WATCH...EPISODE 34 THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!!
What I found was very, very interesting - I put some forensic questions to them by e-mail and found that the e-mail address had been timed out. Then I had a look into how one would go about joining Hope Not Hate to support and 'work' for them. I ultimately discovered that it is literally impossible to join Hope Not Hate on a voluntary basis. It's like the Masons in that you have to be 'vouched for' and invited in.
Now in some ways this is smart - if you're running a political group then mass membership is more of a curse and fool's errand than anything because you never know what your dumbest member wrote on Facebook or X 2 years ago. Reform (of all people) are learning that lesson with every by election by the looks of it. In terms of effectiveness and discretion a closed shop/controlled membership is definitely the way to go.
But...it did make me wonder how one gets 'into' Hope Not Hate, especially given that some of their ranks are ex-nationalists with dubious criminal pasts. Are some of these people compromised? Maybe narcissistic enough to want to stay in the game and just 'swap sides' in order to facilitate it?
As Nick says there are two Hope Not Hates - a company and a charity. There are benefits to being a company in that you don't need to tell the world what you spend your money on - and benefits to being a charity in terms of exemptions from certain things and favourable treatment. HNH is a charity when it suits them to be one and a company when it suits also.
Certainly a murky and shady organisation - not to be trusted.
Just an observation from across the pond.The Globalists are reveling in the fact that the public actually has an influence in British politics.They counted on the people to be accommodating of all races and look where it's gotten them? Hell on Earth.Been that way since the mid 60s now it's game over unless the Lions awaken as time is running out for all of us.
It's one half terrorist organisation, one half Mafia protection racket. "Nice newspaper you have here....shame if you were to be labelled extremist and far right. That could cause considerable damage to your profits. Whoops, clumsy me, I've just smeared one of your journalists as fascist. You'll have to sack him now." I have it on good authority that they use bullying and coercion to force businesses to toe their line and get money out of them. You know the tactic: Tell them to endorse HnH, if they refuse then organise mass boycotts, direct action and threaten senior staff.
I've been saying for years that HnH should be the subject of a thorough investigation. Charlotte Gill has done some work in this regard but the full, thorough trawl through who they are, who runs it, who funds it....it's got two wings so they can exploit the charity status whilst bending the rules on funding...and how much foreign interference is influencing them?
I remember when you got a hit piece done on you on their main website....they screen grabbed something you said on X and they also screen grabbed my reply! So for a brief moment I was in their crosshairs and got dogpiled by their attack hamsters.
If it were designated as a terrorist organisation imagine the skeletons coming out of the closet: Police, civil servants, MPs....all in collusion. I would welcome the career bloodbath.
Just echoing what Nick has said - and I remember what happened to you not very long ago.
I had a good look at HNH and had to smile when Pete managed to make their pages (but then again so did Rishi Sunak, which is laughable).
Next year get ready for FAR RIGHT WATCH...EPISODE 34 THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!!
What I found was very, very interesting - I put some forensic questions to them by e-mail and found that the e-mail address had been timed out. Then I had a look into how one would go about joining Hope Not Hate to support and 'work' for them. I ultimately discovered that it is literally impossible to join Hope Not Hate on a voluntary basis. It's like the Masons in that you have to be 'vouched for' and invited in.
Now in some ways this is smart - if you're running a political group then mass membership is more of a curse and fool's errand than anything because you never know what your dumbest member wrote on Facebook or X 2 years ago. Reform (of all people) are learning that lesson with every by election by the looks of it. In terms of effectiveness and discretion a closed shop/controlled membership is definitely the way to go.
But...it did make me wonder how one gets 'into' Hope Not Hate, especially given that some of their ranks are ex-nationalists with dubious criminal pasts. Are some of these people compromised? Maybe narcissistic enough to want to stay in the game and just 'swap sides' in order to facilitate it?
As Nick says there are two Hope Not Hates - a company and a charity. There are benefits to being a company in that you don't need to tell the world what you spend your money on - and benefits to being a charity in terms of exemptions from certain things and favourable treatment. HNH is a charity when it suits them to be one and a company when it suits also.
Certainly a murky and shady organisation - not to be trusted.
Just remember that the National Socialists were socialist.
Didn't somebody work out afew years back that HnH are essentially an Mi5 outfit?
That would not surprise me in the least
yeah Mark Windows had a look at them and reached that conclusion...
well worth checking out...https://windowsontheworld.net/?s=hope+not+hate
Yup
Like all socialists, power and control is their aim. How they get there and who gets hurt is largely immaterial to them.
They are extremists and fuelled by hate towards anyone with a differing worldview.
Ex HnH editor Matthew McGregor in government under Andy Burnham, expected more radical left aligned attacks
This is the upside down world we live in now. Criminals have more rights than their victims.
I don’t understand how a purported Tory government could support a far left organisation like HnH?
When people accuse the party system in the UK of being a politically corrupt, handshake run operation, HnH are a prime example of the accusation.
That leads me to wonder why Peter still holds a candle for the party.
As soon as you get your head around the Tories not being conservative it all makes sense. The Uniparty are just different cheeks of the sane arse.
Just an observation from across the pond.The Globalists are reveling in the fact that the public actually has an influence in British politics.They counted on the people to be accommodating of all races and look where it's gotten them? Hell on Earth.Been that way since the mid 60s now it's game over unless the Lions awaken as time is running out for all of us.
Sorry Pete but wild accusations sans evidence just makes you look like freeman of the land nutter.
Not so wild when you see what is happening all around you soon to be on your doorstep that is inevitable and tragic.