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Richard's avatar

Just the ideal read to blight an otherwise gloriously beautiful Spring day.

Gilgamech's avatar

All of democracies are bordering on failed states. Multiple causes include: compromise by foreign and domestic interests; voter cynism; entrenched unaccountable elites; bloated states with no corrective feedback mechanisms. It will end in civil war or vassalage. Or worse, just never end.

Jeffrey  Keyworth's avatar

We’re doomed Mr Mannering, doomed

Michael L's avatar

I think you'll find it was Mr Mainwaring. But we are still doomed all the same.

Paul's avatar
4hEdited

Throw into that an increasingly crime ridden and dangerous society- whether it’s from shoplifting, mentally ill people loose on the streets until they kill, third world rapists, or the sneaking suspicion that a lot of the shops on the high street are money laundering fronts.

Michael L's avatar

This is how all empires end - first with a bang, and then with a whimper. It's been going on since the end of WW II.

Niall Warry's avatar

Very true and there is worse to come before we rise again - it's what history teaches us.

Paul's avatar

I think what comes after will be different. Best case is we have to live in a much more authoritarian society, with fewer freedoms, and a heavy handed state holding the ring between different groups. Hopefully this could be maybe a society where we at least have some kind of a market in employment and business.

Worst case scenario balkanised, demoralised South African style country - horrendous crime, corruption and declining public services and infrastructure.

Anglo-Saxon freedoms aren’t coming back. We gave them away for a mess of pottage.

Niall Warry's avatar

Read the long post I've just posted a few minutes ago but I agree our ingrained problems, after 50 odd years of failed left of centre governments, will only be addressed by tough no nonsense actions and the opposition from the woke liberal elite, Green types, the Unions and generally the faint-hearted inclined to 'suicidal empathy' will be excessive.

Paul's avatar

You’re at the stage of needing to attain international pariah status to fix the issues - unless all of the west turns hard right at the same time. Part of me thinks you’d need a Pinochet style regime for 10 years to restabilise things sufficiently but none of us really has the stomach for that do we.

Niall Warry's avatar

I've written before about living in the sixth and final stage of a nations life cycle, The Age of Decadence, as described by Sir John 'Pasha' Glubb in in his 1975 essay 'The Fate of Empires' and as he pointed out ,on page one, that the only lesson of history is we never learn from it there so there is worse to become before we recover.

As to recovering the government that will succeed is one obviously with a right of centre mandate given the last 50 years of a failed left wing agenda. What was it Mrs Thatcher said "The trouble with socialism is they always in the end run out of other people's money".

My final point, made so well to me recently by Pete's father Dr Richard North of his blog Turbulent Times, is that the success of the government that is going to start the long hard and slow process of turning our country around all depends on them winning a majority based on a clear well set our mandate.

Nigel's Reform Party will fail because they have no detailed policies just populist rhetoric so should they come to power and start to implement the policies, that are actually necessary to solve our ingrained problems, they will encounter serious opposition especially from those who would argue they had no mandate for those tough actions and sadly the opposition would have a point.

The government we need must win power based on a clear well set out Manifesto as only then would they be able to govern and take head on the opposition they would encounter as they would be able to reply we have a clear democratic mandate for policies X Y and Z.

Lastly the next election will solve very little and sadly while Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain is on the right track it again has no detailed policies and he has currently made clear if he doesn't win in 2029 or before he will bow out.

Our future will be determined by the election after next.

Michael L's avatar

Whilst Rupert Lowe and Restore have set the right attitude, direction and objectives for me, they are still a long way from being a viable party to succeed. The advisory and policy people he has writing for him are all capable but he needs to nurture some more heavyweight players who are likely to take over from him after the next election.

Martin Spencer's avatar

Our future is determined by current demographics: 40% of junior school pupils are Third Worlders.

Niall Warry's avatar

There is a lot to sort out unfortunately and it will take a government with a clear right of centre mandate and a big majority to turn the tide.

If one doesn't remain optimistic we might as well jet off to Dignitas and of course we need the people to get behind these six reforms. https://harrogateagenda.org.uk/ to improve our democracy and governance to turn our politicians into our servants rather than being our masters.

Martin T's avatar

Things will get worse before they get better. Only consolations are that we have a year or two of fiscal and infrastructure failure to concentrate minds. Reform are ‘on notice’ and need to up their game and will find winners (as well as losers) form their experience in local government. Reform will also compete with the Tories for credibility. We have to have some grounds for optimism. Anyway, it’s a lovely evening and the countryside has never looked more glorious.

David Scott's avatar

If first past the post is the problem, is proportional representation the solution? Can't see it myself.

Niall Warry's avatar

No as parties are already coalitions the trouble is the two main parties are so bad others are growing. The solution is to keep FPTP and get back to two strong principled parties one to the right of the other or one to the left of the other!!

Mfyffe's avatar

...and then you woke up. The disgusting PTB and their (very largely foreign) paymasters will not let that happen, and there are enough greedy/stupid/brain-dead/foreign people now in our country to ensure same old same old. Perhaps under a different name.