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J C's avatar

I think those like Tom who believe so passionately about killing young men in pointless wars should lead by example, grab a rifle and head over there themselves.

I already have one son who is now living outside the UK, and Im trying to encourage my youngest son to do the same. I dont want him dying for something we dont believe in, for a government that actively works against young lads in the Uk.

The last bunch of lads who went to a world war did so believing they were defending their country, only for their great grandkids to be raped or murdered by foreign men with vile ideologies while the state they served did everything they could to cover it up and protect the offenders.

No thank you.

Britain, No country for young men

WhatNext's avatar

Every single MP and government official - and their cronies - who initiate, support and prolong wars should be the first to occupy the frontline and trenches - in all its gore and inhumanity - and not sat behind a desk! That is one party political manifest that would get my vote.

Krb981's avatar

Couldn’t agree more Pete. A tragic waste of life and yet all these vile, bloodthirsty, politicians seem to thrive on it. Disgusting spectacle.

Andrew Phillips's avatar

Tughendat may look like a naive and earnest English teacher, but he is a fully paid-up member of the European 'élite'. It is moreover a schoolboy error not to comprehend that it is their intent to destroy 'national' populations - exactly what is being achieved in Ukraine right now and what talking up a broader war with Russia is partly about (other than a way to justify a higher Defence allocation and a distraction from the main tool of polity destruction - migration).

Niall Warry's avatar

Our governments reaction to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, starting with the utter 'Oaf' Johnson who shot over there to distract from his troubles at home, has been based on nothing short of total ignorance as to the geopolitical realities of the situation.

Let me remind you that Russia during the 90s was being considered for NATO membership and we have turned them from potential ally and friend with many common interests to an ardent foe while in contrast we treat the more dangerous China with kid gloves.

We are governed by cosmetic ignoramuses.

The_Swindonian's avatar

We seem to have interfered in Ukraine since about 2004, and then with Cameron bleating about extending the EU to the foot of the Urals. You cannot keep poking the bear and expect no reaction. As you say, Johnson dragged us into our current position as a deflection.

Fiona walker's avatar

The desire to keep this war going forever makes me think that the real idea is to denude Ukraine of its entire young and healthy population so that the BigBoys can move in to plunder the mineral wealth. I hear that women are to be conscripted next. As for Russia, it would make a better ally than enemy.

The_Swindonian's avatar

That is the result but I think it has been brought about by sheer stupidity, not by an idea.

J C's avatar

Blackrock already have their talons in

Luke Jones's avatar

The only thing to consider, is why you actually thought the Tories were even in the running to get your vote? I mean, have you been in a coma the last 15 years Pete? The same people are pulling the strings as they always were. Anybody still believing them after all this time have no judgement skills whatsoever. Makes no difference what any of the say, look at the record!

The_Swindonian's avatar

To me, they seemed to be improving, but maybe not.

We must still give democracy a chance.

Luke Jones's avatar

But here's the thing, improving in what? The things they said???

Well, they always talked Right Wing as long as i was a member, but they never governed Right Wing. Thats the whole point of the Tories. If anyone believes the things the say (and i did for a decade as a member!) they are stupid. The Tories talk Right Wing but never EVER do those things. The Tories are Liberal left and thats it.

The Martyr's avatar

Exactly my experience as another ex Conservative member. Vote Reform.

Luke Jones's avatar

Indeed. The only way of forcing change is by voting Reform in ‘29. Are they exactly what im looking for? Of course they aren’t. But im not going to make perfect the enemy of the good. Whatever happens Reform are 100% preferential to Labour again. Reform need power in ‘29 and then we’ll work on ‘34 from there.

The Martyr's avatar

Yes Reform aren’t perfect but they’re a lot better than the alternatives who can win. Tories have shown they haven’t changed with Badenoch’s reshuffle. She could have promoted Nick Timothy or Katie Lam but she’s afraid of them. If the socialist win the next election we’ll have PR which will do its best to keep the right from power. People need to bloody wake up and vote Reform.

Chumpchange's avatar

Couldn’t agree more, as an ex-Con member.

J C's avatar

Absolutely

CCHQ are the same. Donors are the same.

There is no change.

I was once a member, but walked away from that a long time ago.

The Martyr's avatar

Agree 💯. I’d actually forgotten that Pritti Patel was an MP let alone Foreign Secretary but with Badenoch replacing her with Tom Tugenhadt she’s really shown her true, EU supporting, globalist colours. Anyone who thinks the Tories have changed under Badenoch really isn’t paying attention.

George's avatar

The political ‘norm’ is fraying.

Labour may well go to the country before the end of the year.

They see nothing but problems ahead.

The biggest problem for them is the near certainty of blackouts.

This is due to a failure to invest in non renewable energy and dispensing with massive natural gas storage chambers. There is 12 days worth of gas storage left. Energy companies will have to buy on a spot market inflated by speculators.

Burnhams efforts at reducing energy costs through VAT reductions will look pathetic if the next winter is a cold one.

People are starting to understand how the failure in the economy is leading to ever increasing taxes too.

Where ever he tries to tax he loses support and with the traditional areas of saving, Defence and Benefits, at a critical low or sacrosanct he has no room to make popular decisions.

He can’t/wont stop mass migration.

That spend is out of control.

Politically, Iceland, France, Italy, Germany, Denmark, Sweden are looking less globalist, more nationalist. The EUs iron fist is looking distinctly rubbery.

None of this is good for the globalist parties. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

TD Craig's avatar

The main war is being fought on our own soil, between those who love Britain and want to protect its heritage and values and those who utterly despise it. Britain will simply cease to exist unless there is a radical change in direction very soon. This is what the Tories fail to recognise. Indeed, they largely created the problem in the first place, which is the real reason why they should NEVER be trusted to fix it.

pobrecollie's avatar

you are watching the BBC and expecting to get an accurate account?

Aloft Fondness's avatar

Sorry but "the least worst option". People really need to stop thinking that electoral democracy is meritocratic in any way. The best you can do is vote punitively. You must vote such that you inflict maximal harm on the political class, regardless of policy quite frankly. While I remain unconvinced that voting for pathologically destructive policies or endorsing "accelerationism" is the way to go, rebooting the Conservatives after their slow self-destruction is an objectively poor choice.

Sardonic 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Wrath's avatar

This is why we can't give up on the young nationalists, tempting though it may be at times.

Forte Shades's avatar

“Narcissism of liberal internationalism”. Another great line.

David Jory's avatar

Absolutely agree.

For reading about WW1 I found Sleepwalkers a really good book on the subject,and Barbara Tuchman's August 1914 is also a good one.

Vabadus's avatar

It's "least BAD option", not "least worst". I don't know why that has suddenly become common to say. "Worst" means "most bad", so the opposite is "least bad".

George's avatar

By the way, banks love war.

Whilst Germany weren’t allowed to borrow in WW2, they were allowed to sell gold.

This they did copiously - theirs, their conquered lands gold and of course Jewish and other unfortunate peoples wealth who they imprisoned and regarded as lower forms of life.

I’m sure the banks are lending abundantly to Ukraine, receiving assets in p/ex.

Not right/left, more not right.